Re: Jeff Williams FAQ was Re: [atlarge-discuss] Re: [ga] HMS...

[Don Brown <donbrown_l@inetconcepts.net>]

Gee and to think I was upset that you didn't invite me to dinner when
you came to Dallas :-)


Monday, August 5, 2002, 3:40:29 PM, Ross Wm. Rader <ross@tucows.com> wrote:
RWR> "Using MapQuest: Notice there are no buildings at the address 5 E.
RWR> Kirkwood, Grapevine,TX (look at aerial view) - just a dirt farm"

RWR> Its actually more than a dirt farm now - there has been a lot of development
RWR> in that area and Sabre is building a massive complex at the end of East
RWR> Grapevine. Jeff's office is however still just a dirt lot...

RWR> See http://www.byte.org/jw/jwk1.jpg (Grapevine from the highway) ,
RWR> http://www.byte.org/jw/jwk2.jpg (the entrance to the new development that
RWR> the INEG office/datacenter/fiction is located) and
RWR> http://www.byte.org/jw/jwk3.jpg (the actual location of the INEG
RWR> office/datacenter/fiction) for a mini-tour.

RWR> Thanks,

RWR> -rwr

RWR> ----- Original Message -----
RWR> From: "Gary Osbourne" <gro@direct.ca>
RWR> To: <ga@dnso.org>
RWR> Sent: Monday, August 05, 2002 2:12 PM
RWR> Subject: Jeff Williams FAQ was Re: [atlarge-discuss] Re: [ga] HMS...


>> At 05:26 AM 05/08/02 -0700, Jeff Williams wrote:
>>
>> >Gary Osbourne wrote:
>> > > Oh really? Please point to where it was published before.
>> >
>> >   Well the archives for this ML have a huge amount of
>> >references for instance. Start around '99 and go forward in
>> >time from there.. Also the NCDNHC Archives
>> >have substantial number of posts and other references
>> >as well.
>>
>> Jeff, if you can't provide even minimal pointers to your
>> claims, as you recently failed to do for Danny Younger on
>> the RAA, then even if people otherwise had reason to
>> believe you, they wouldn't believe you.
>>
>> The VeriSign/CENTR/.ac document, which is central to the
>> article, has only recently been published, how could it
>> appear in any archives in 1999? It is not mostly old info
>> as you alleged in the body and title of your response.
>> You are being misleading, and one can only assume that
>> that is intentional as it happens so often.
>>
>> >   Yes I know. But Ted is credited with the article.
>>
>> http://www.icannwatch.org/article.php?sid=889&mode=nested&order=1
>>
>> No he isn't, I am as fnord, and have been since it was
>> published. Ted is listed as the ICANNWatch editor who
>> published it, and has been since it was published. Here
>> you are repeating a false assertion I have already
>> corrected you on once, you are again being misleading,
>> so it must be intentional. See FAQ at bottom for various
>> other examples of Jeff Williams being misleading. I
>> didn't write the FAQ, but I think I'll help maintain
>> and publish it.
>>
>> To answer WXW's GA list question, while certainly most
>> here well know that Jeff Williams is a net.kook and
>> being intentionally misleading is his stock in trade,
>> on the ICANNAtLarge list he crossposted to (and perhaps
>> at other crosspost destinations, what happened to the
>> GA crosspost rule?) there are a number of folks (many
>> new to the process) who are not at least initially
>> aware of the facts regarding Jeff Williams. So I think
>> it should be pointed out from time to time. If Jeff
>> Williams continues to respond to my posts, and then
>> crossposts them to all and sundry, I suppose I will
>> continue to respond to some of his. I am sending this
>> separately to various of his crossposts. -g
>>
>> ----
>> Jeff Williams FAQ:
>>
>> Why is there no web site for an organization with 124,000 people?
>> Because it doesn't exist.
>>
>> The first phone number he lists in his sig file, 972-244-3801,
>> is "out of order".
>>
>> Grapevine, TX Chamber of Commerce has no record of INEG Group
>> (The original author of this FAQ telephoned them).
>> http://www.grapevinechamber.org/members.cfm?charpass=I
>>
>> Jeff Williams FAQs from other lists.
>> http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc03/msg00615.html
>> http://www.gtld-mou.org/gtld-discuss/mail-archive/08015.html
>>
>> Jeff Williams claiming to be a lawyer
>> http://www.gtld-mou.org/gtld-discuss/mail-archive/05398.html
>>
>> Non-existence of INEG
>> http://www.gtld-mou.org/gtld-discuss/mail-archive/02722.html
>>
>> Using MapQuest: Notice there are no buildings at the address 5 E.
>> Kirkwood, Grapevine,TX (look at aerial view) - just a dirt farm
>> http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?dtype=a&mapdata=i8rr6UmMevOWYQS5T
>> %2f7w9XJwfQLjuDnKO8qRCWArhD7DApDOxIMQcwX%2fNZAsafl7RuNybLS51jtuWSlOHLt
>> GjEWmnimxXgLbWJGWc6Ju4KaHkfVdWm5UtCLI%2bQhZK7zU9R%2b8SEsWzV%2bfebExpAX
>> T3CkWS2Tv%2bc8ApW%2bXSManTwDj7ygxpGxZXrFdrcrmPQyt6P9avifn21dMOVRmsyZ9w
>> Z0C9iO2T0thh%2f8JcJJyEg8s46rDeIuQ0V753qW9SThHcWlAh2S24a2AYK7%2fI4bQY96
>> 2uRJjH%2bhTFgvXPeZLTUxoX%2fr5VSKNrwzTmOED5u2dCGZb8t7dIjNh4mXmWYmwcMvmI
>> 58XgfvOVDI7Xgm9%2bWnBWHOzTWsDVQ%3d%3d
>>
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