Re: [ga] Casting stones

[eric@hi-tek.com]

Perhaps there is some fact that is too often overlooked;
Most rebids with the USgov. result in modifications to the original bid but the
current operator retaining the bid.
A rebid therefor is more of a cleansing process than a talent search for new
operators.
If you do not believe me ask Boeing.
Eric

Dan Steinberg wrote:

> I agree with Ross. Just as there was no real harm and some possible good
> from the GA taking a position a while back, there is no better forum to
> discuss better design.  After all the better design...could be...a
> revised ICANN.
> The point at which someone starts to implement a better
> structure....that is where divergence occurs.  Until then, I figure it
> is extremely on-topic.
>
> "Ross Wm. Rader" wrote:
> >
> > > international) structures that can also achieve substantial buy-in.  I
> > > think that is do-able. But this is not the forum for that discussion.
> >
> > Where is that forum?
> >
> > Better design can happen in parallel to the execution of existing
> > instructions, but also remember that ad hoc solutions have a way of taking
> > root while the "better" protocol is being designed....
> >
> > -rwr
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Michael Froomkin - U.Miami School of Law" <froomkin@law.miami.edu>
> > To: "Thomas Roessler" <roessler@does-not-exist.org>
> > Cc: "Gary Osbourne" <gro@direct.ca>; <DannyYounger@cs.com>; <ga@dnso.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2002 7:31 PM
> > Subject: Re: [ga] Casting stones
> >
> > > I think there are many other alternatives.  I agree that simply expecting
> > > Congress to pull rabbits out of some hat and solve all these problems is
> > > not realistic.  The challenge is to design better (and even more truly
> > > international) structures that can also achieve substantial buy-in.  I
> > > think that is do-able. But this is not the forum for that discussion.
> > >
> > > On Wed, 7 Aug 2002, Thomas Roessler wrote:
> > >
> > > > On 2002-08-06 18:20:21 -0400, Michael Froomkin wrote:
> > > >
> > > > And what's your perspective for the future?  Replacing ICANN?  By
> > > > what?  Direct government oversight over Verisign?  How realistic is
> > > > that?
> > > >
> > > > All this talk about a re-bid, or about working around ICANN,
> > > > ultimately boils down to the suggestion to replace the lobbyist
> > > > battleground called ICANN by the lobbyist battleground called
> > > > Capitol Hill.  Same players, different coast.  How's that an
> > > > improvement?
> > > >
> > > > Bad enough, you don't seem to have any plans for the event that the
> > > > battleground remains at the West Coast.  What's the NGO community
> > > > going to do when ICANN reform actually happens, and the DoC renews
> > > > the MoU?  Still continue to lobby for a "re-bid", focus on the meta
> > > > level, and let Intellectual Property interests dominate part of the
> > > > debate down on the detail levels where policy and architecture (*)
> > > > are made?  (Yes, I know that things are more complicated.)
> > > >
> > > > As I wrote you earlier today: The argument that people don't listen
> > > > is a hell of a lot more credible when you have said something. Not
> > > > in year 1, but now.
> > > >
> > > > (*) Used like Lessig does it. Think, for instance, about thick vs.
> > > > thin registry.  Thick registry does, in particular, mean that you
> > > > can do some jurisdiction shopping as far as privacy of registrants
> > > > is concerned.  That's much more difficult with a thin registry.
> > > >
> > >
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