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Re: [ga] Offensive language
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Obviously, from your post, you know how to handle yourself when with
the Navajo shepards and when fishing on the Mekong Delta. That begs
the question of why appropriate posting to the GA list is a challenge?
Pursuant to your post below, as man with your educational credentials,
an extensive knowledge of cultural divergence and a prior experience
of being chastised for, perhaps, liberal use of language, why do you
not then have the intellect, vocabulary and courtesy to avoid those
words that other cultures, or even people of your culture, may find
offensive?
The problem at hand is not censorship, as you put it. It about taking
common responsibility for following the rules of the list and that of
general, common decorum.
I would support your cause 110%, if this were a case of censorship.
It is not. Conversely, it is a case of righteous indignation, for
all of the wrong, and immature, reasons.
Most mature people generally suck it up, take responsibility and move
on. I have been wrong many, many times and will, most assuredly be so,
again.
Certainly, I didn't really have a problem with the words used, as
quoted by the Chair/Monitor, but I would have had a problem, if
viewed by my daughter (30+ yrs old, too) or my wife.
The indignation is far-fetched, misplaced and quite similar to a
VeriSign or SnapNames spin on the truth. I hope you will just move on.
Thanks,
Sunday, August 18, 2002, 12:27:59 PM, eric@hi-tek.com <eric@hi-tek.com> wrote:
ehtc> When an exchange is equal between two American English speakers and it
ehtc> appears rough and tumble to a ESL German native, it should be monitored
ehtc> by American English speakers.
ehtc> We must remain sensitive to cultures and suggestions of vulgarity from
ehtc> one culture that is not vulgar in the other is completely
ehtc> discriminatory. I have recently been chastised for language that has
ehtc> many times been used in my many legislatures and in decorum such as
ehtc> court rooms.
ehtc> Because I speak with an openness accustomed to a South-western American
ehtc> I am being threatened and told my use of my native tongue in accordance
ehtc> with our culture is wrong. This is a hate thing and it is wrong.
ehtc> AS and TR have not a clue what is offensive when I am on a Horse in
ehtc> Winslow Arizona with Navajo shephards or what is offensive when I am
ehtc> fishing in the Mekong Delta. I am sure they do not know what is
ehtc> offensive in an Internet Room/Bar in Sidney or the Parliament in
ehtc> England.
ehtc> You people have no right to judge my language in American English. I
ehtc> have a degree in Linguistic Philosophy from Northern Arizona University
ehtc> and a Degree in Law from California Western School of Law and you two
ehtc> are going to judge what is right to say in my culture? I have studied
ehtc> language in the American Universities in Puebla Mexico and Paris France,
ehtc> I have studied directly under Salinger and Kissinger and you have the
ehtc> gaul to tell me what is proper language.
ehtc> This is direct censorship by threat, something which is unacceptable in
ehtc> the WIPO and WTO and EU and all international standards. It is a direct
ehtc> violation of about fifteen BTAs that I am aware of.
ehtc> this is exactly why Danny is fighting a losing battle in ICANN there are
ehtc> these weird folks running around infringing upon free speech so no
ehtc> voices are really being heard. This is a matter of right and wrong and
ehtc> book burning. You are operating under a contract with the US government
ehtc> and operating under a license from The Great State of California and
ehtc> Under Permission of the IRS, I will nail your scrawny censoring
ehtc> derrières in all courts wich maintain jurisdiction in these matters. If
ehtc> you want to subject ICANN to this type of liability with your clearly
ehtc> implied threats, go ahead and keep it up. I ain't like Karl I am not
ehtc> patient. I will not tolerate the abuse of one of my self evident truths
ehtc> of free speech. And if a government body, or one of it's contractors
ehtc> interferes therein I will defend my constitution and the mandate of the
ehtc> UN as I have sworn to do.
ehtc> Review even your own supreme court's decision as to what is offensive or
ehtc> considered a personal attack.
ehtc> Most Sincerely,
ehtc> eric
ehtc> Please review the threats at;
ehtc> http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg03478.html
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Sunday, August 18, 2002, 12:27:59 PM, eric@hi-tek.com <eric@hi-tek.com> wrote:
ehtc> When an exchange is equal between two American English speakers and it
ehtc> appears rough and tumble to a ESL German native, it should be monitored
ehtc> by American English speakers.
ehtc> We must remain sensitive to cultures and suggestions of vulgarity from
ehtc> one culture that is not vulgar in the other is completely
ehtc> discriminatory. I have recently been chastised for language that has
ehtc> many times been used in my many legislatures and in decorum such as
ehtc> court rooms.
ehtc> Because I speak with an openness accustomed to a South-western American
ehtc> I am being threatened and told my use of my native tongue in accordance
ehtc> with our culture is wrong. This is a hate thing and it is wrong.
ehtc> AS and TR have not a clue what is offensive when I am on a Horse in
ehtc> Winslow Arizona with Navajo shephards or what is offensive when I am
ehtc> fishing in the Mekong Delta. I am sure they do not know what is
ehtc> offensive in an Internet Room/Bar in Sidney or the Parliament in
ehtc> England.
ehtc> You people have no right to judge my language in American English. I
ehtc> have a degree in Linguistic Philosophy from Northern Arizona University
ehtc> and a Degree in Law from California Western School of Law and you two
ehtc> are going to judge what is right to say in my culture? I have studied
ehtc> language in the American Universities in Puebla Mexico and Paris France,
ehtc> I have studied directly under Salinger and Kissinger and you have the
ehtc> gaul to tell me what is proper language.
ehtc> This is direct censorship by threat, something which is unacceptable in
ehtc> the WIPO and WTO and EU and all international standards. It is a direct
ehtc> violation of about fifteen BTAs that I am aware of.
ehtc> this is exactly why Danny is fighting a losing battle in ICANN there are
ehtc> these weird folks running around infringing upon free speech so no
ehtc> voices are really being heard. This is a matter of right and wrong and
ehtc> book burning. You are operating under a contract with the US government
ehtc> and operating under a license from The Great State of California and
ehtc> Under Permission of the IRS, I will nail your scrawny censoring
ehtc> derrières in all courts wich maintain jurisdiction in these matters. If
ehtc> you want to subject ICANN to this type of liability with your clearly
ehtc> implied threats, go ahead and keep it up. I ain't like Karl I am not
ehtc> patient. I will not tolerate the abuse of one of my self evident truths
ehtc> of free speech. And if a government body, or one of it's contractors
ehtc> interferes therein I will defend my constitution and the mandate of the
ehtc> UN as I have sworn to do.
ehtc> Review even your own supreme court's decision as to what is offensive or
ehtc> considered a personal attack.
ehtc> Most Sincerely,
ehtc> eric
ehtc> Please review the threats at;
ehtc> http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg03478.html
ehtc> --
ehtc> This message was passed to you via the ga@dnso.org list.
ehtc> Send mail to majordomo@dnso.org to unsubscribe
ehtc> ("unsubscribe ga" in the body of the message).
ehtc> Archives at http://www.dnso.org/archives.html
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