RE: [ga] FW: Comment from the gTLD Registry Constituency

["Neuman, Jeff" <Jeff.Neuman@neustar.us>]

Thanks Elizabeth, we do recognize the difference at Neustar.  However, we
also recognize that there are certain issues that should be considered
"global policy issues" and for these it is more appropriate to have a global
body, like the ICANN, to provide that forum than to rely on just the local
community.  A few examples of these types of issues include (1) Grace
Periods, (2) Transfers, (3) Escrow, (4) Dispute Resolution Policies, and (5)
Uniform Deletion Periods, etc. 

As our contract with the Department of Commerce sets forth, we are required
to look towards ICANN for global policy issues.  It is in the ICANN arena
that we often choose to participate from both a ccTLD and gTLD perspective
because in our opinion some of these issues affect all global users equally.
In this respect, for these issues, gTLDs and ccTLDs are affected in exactly
the same way and therefore, should be treated the same way.  I understand
that there are may ccTLDs that do not believe that there are any global
policy issues.  We do not believe that to be the case.  If

Yes, for most of the other issues, we will look towards our own local
community for input and you are correct, it is that local aspect that makes
.us different than a gTLD like .biz.  




-----Original Message-----
From: Elisabeth Porteneuve [mailto:Elisabeth.Porteneuve@cetp.ipsl.fr]
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 12:11 PM
To: DannyYounger@cs.com; barrister@chambers.gen.nz; cgomes@verisign.com;
ga@dnso.org
Subject: RE: [ga] FW: Comment from the gTLD Registry Constituency





Chuck,

You are absolutely correct to say that Registries benefit
from the input of others, business, lawyers, academic sector,
telcos, ISP and others.
We have been doing it at AFNIC for years, in French.

The ccTLD registries are serving over 190 sovereign countries,
and 50 territories, the whole planet, their primary duty is 
to serve their local internet communities, to be with their users
every day, operate in their legal systems, and speak their languages.

I do not understand what you mean by "they might want to avoid 
[constituencies]" - do you think the same constituency structure should
be imposed on every ccTLD ? From practical point of view do you 
suggest each ccTLD should work in English ?

I believe we are in the heart of rich difference between ccTLD and gTLD.
The ccTLD space is local. The gTLD space is extra-judiciary, it is
not connected to any country. Therefore the ICANN structure which
is being providing a global place, for global Internet community.
Take an example, the Neustar has a good perception of difference
- their focus is US, when they operate .us (with all conditions
on name servers which must be in the US etc). But when they operate 
.biz (as VeriSign which operates .com/.net) they think international.
On the www.nic.biz site the customers have a choice of languages, 
Chinese, French, German, Korean, Japanese, Spanish, the UDRP service
and a neutral green background, while on the www.nic.us there is 
an US flag up front.

Amicalement,
Elisabeth Porteneuve
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> It's never been clear why the ccTLD registries couldn't "benefit" from the
> input of other consituencies.  ccTLD TLDs involve business, IP,
> noncommerical, and ISP users, so, if the constituency model is to be
> continued, why wouldn't the ccSO have similar constituencies?  I can
> understand why they might want to avoid that, but it is not because those
> constituences are not impacted by ccTLD issues.
> 
> Chuck  
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: DannyYounger@cs.com [mailto:DannyYounger@cs.com]
> > Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2002 8:50 PM
> > To: barrister@chambers.gen.nz; ga@dnso.org
> > Subject: Re: [ga] FW: Comment from the gTLD Registry Constituency
> > 
> > 
> > Peter,
> > 
> > I appreciate your sensitivity to user concerns and note that 
> > you have asked, 
> > "Why shouldn't the structure require the registries and 
> > registrars to sit 
> > around the table with their user community?"
> > 
> > In light of this question, can you identify the functional 
> > mechanism by which 
> > relevant user community input will be respected within the 
> > proposed ccSO?  
> > Perhaps that which is proposed within your own SO can offer 
> > some structural 
> > guidance to the GNSO...
> > 
> > best regards,
> > Danny
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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