Re: [ga] ICANN Staff's at-large website

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>]

Abel and all,

  I completely agree with Abel's concerns here as he stated them.
Vittorio has acted badly and in seemingly bad faith.

Abel Wisman wrote:

> Vittorio,
>
> You clearly fail to see that the moment you resigned, the maillist was
> property of the remaining panellists, not yours to do with as you
> please.
> While being a panel member you had a limited right of access of that
> list, which represent the member-list for the organisation.
> By sending this list to non panel members and selectively upon your own
> decision you have demonstrated a total disregard for simple democratic
> rules, written or non-written.
> You have willingly and purposly thrown the organisation of a cliff while
> smiling in the rafters, making sure no election COULD take place by not
> giving the maillist to the remainder of the panel.
>
> If this is your idea of how to handle a position of trust and
> resposibility then I pity the ALAC, no matter what I think of that, with
> you as chairman and sincerely hope that ICANN has safeguarded her
> brainchild from the likes of you.
>
> No matter how you wiggle, you have only you to blame, the entire
> organisation has you to blame, but I have no doubt you wont loose sleep
> over it.
>
> You in person have no legal rights to a passwd for a site of an
> organisation you are no longer a panel member of, nor did you have the
> right to share that passwd with anyone BUT the panel members, no mattter
> how few were remaining and what their political agendas were.
>
> Abel
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-ga@dnso.org [mailto:owner-ga@dnso.org] On Behalf
> > Of Vittorio Bertola
> > Sent: 17 March 2003 16:44
> > To: J-F C. (Jefsey) Morfin
> > Cc: ga@dnso.org
> > Subject: Re: [ga] ICANN Staff's at-large website
> >
> >
> > On Mon, 17 Mar 2003 13:42:44 +0100, you wrote:
> >
> > >2. Vittorio Bertola is the Chair of the WG-Web maintaining
> > >     the site discussed by Joanna, being the only one
> > >     having the password.
> >
> > False. I gave the password to the watchdogs. And I am not
> > Chair of anything any more.
> >
> > >3. there is a panel made of three not resigning Panelists
> > >     including Vittorio Bertola, and there is a list of elected
> > >     replacements that Viottorio refused to call. We will note
> > >     that the last Panelist to resign were bored out by
> > >     Vittorio innaction and that after the last resignation
> > >     Vittorio ran a 8 days long vote of the Panel.
> >
> > You fail to mention that the three not resigning Panelists,
> > including you, voted unanimously to have new elections rather
> > than call replacements in and continue working. I simply
> > applied what we decided. You could have voted against the
> > election if you didn't want the Panel to stop working.
> >
> > >4. New elections are blocked because Vittorio Bertola
> > >     made sure that the list of the Members would be
> > >     given to two members with no mandate and no way
> > >     to proceed, rather than to the Panel he chairs, as
> > >     he publicly committed, and as any non ICANNer
> > >     would do.
> >
> > This was my decision (given the complete lack of rules about
> > what to do in this case) to ensure the exact opposite - that
> > elections would actually happen, and that the rest of the
> > Panel would not be able to cancel them. If there are
> > practical problems that prevent the election from happening,
> > I have said a number of times that I am available to help the
> > watchdogs.
> >
> > >I thought that correcting a few erroneous details in the valuable
> > >communication of the ALAC Chair, could help better understanding the
> > >ICANN semantic. In ICANNers language NO means YES, etc. Once you
> > >understdood that, they become an as reliable source of information
> > >as any other one.
> >
> > Jefsey, I might say the same about you and all your dramatic
> > postings, with which apparently you are trying to put
> > pressure on me so that I give the list to you and you can
> > actually put your hands on the organization. Why can't we
> > simply have elections and let the members vote on who should
> > lead them, rather than you and Bruce ruling the organization
> > alone? There's no necessity for you to have the membership
> > list before the elections.
> > --
> > vb.               [Vittorio Bertola - v.bertola [a]
> > bertola.eu.org]<------
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