Re: [ga] WHOIS data on .org domains

["Ram Mohan" <rmohan@afilias.info>]

Thomas,
xWhois is on PIR's list of possible new services.  So is OrgCloak.  Neither
have prices or plans announced - you should ask PIR for specifics.  So
before you make a claim about legality, might be worthwhile checking what is
mandatory (Whois) and what is not (xWhois, OrgCloak, and a host of other
potential, optional services).  I'm not a lawyer myself, but it seems very
clear that you're linking two entirely different things (mandatory services
vs. optional services).

The fact of life is that TODAY, you can find out all contact information
about any COM/NET/ORG domain from the sponsoring registrars' Whois service.

Finally, Whois is decreasing in relevance as the primary contact information
outpost about all Internet users for privacy, spam, etc -- it's probably the
most visible, but the reality is that more social data about more Internet
users is available through private, for-sale databases than through public
Whois.

-ram
----- Original Message -----
From: "Thomas Roessler" <roessler-mobile@does-not-exist.net>
To: <DannyYounger@cs.com>
Cc: <michael@palage.com>; <ga@dnso.org>
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 2:56 AM
Subject: Re: [ga] WHOIS data on .org domains


> On 2003-02-13 11:56:07 -0500, DannyYounger@cs.com wrote:
>
> > Why does my expectation of privacy continue to be eroded in this
> > ICANN process?
>
> What makes this even more interesting is that PIR requires
> registrars to transfer WHOIS information to the registry, which will
> then be used to provide an xWHOIS service which permits searches by
> registrant name.  If you look at the European Commission's and
> IWGDPT's submissions to the WHOIS Task Force (they are linked from
> the final report and say some things about that kind of search
> service), you'll notice that the thin->thick transition is a legal
> can of worms at least (!) for European registrars.
>
> If I may dare an educated guess, their participation in the
> transition is illegal as long as the xWHOIS service is on the table
> and in the contracts.
>
> Regards,
> --
> Thomas Roessler <roessler@does-not-exist.org>
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