The Privacy quotient - To: Re: [ga] RE: [ncdnhc-discuss] my nomination for ICANN Board

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>]

Jefsey, Jeff, and all former DNSO GA members or other interested
parties,


J-F C. (Jefsey) Morfin wrote:

>    Thank you, Jeff.
> You know how much we Europeans tend to consider this issue as
> important.
> The CAPP II and TIA and many other US attitudes on privacy are here
> regarded as ... disconcerting.

  Agreed here Jefsey.  In fact, perhaps contrary to Jeff N's
comments/statements below, this disconcerting attitude is very 
prevalent in the US as well, even amongst the US Military, the 
DHS, the US diplomatic community, and especially amongst a 
growing number of the Wall Street crowd.  As in part, the 
downturn in the US economy, and globally are effected
in a downward trend.  Therefore, the dismissive tone of Jeff N's
post below towards Michael Palage's rightful, strongly legal,
and ethical concerns of privacy seems both out of place, and
inconsistent with good business sense.  Therefore our [INEGroup]
members believe that the DOC/NTIA along with a congressional
bill consideration should reject ICANN's Whois Task Force
recommendations as they were not supported by the comments
see: http://www.dnso.org/dnso/dnsocomments/comments-whois/Arc02/
http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc11/msg00822.html
http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/nc-whois/Arc00/
http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc11/msg00947.html
which were predominantly negative towards that recommendation.

>
>
> The real issue is: if the WhoIs is of any worth it must work.
> Overdoing it
> will only create a tendency to passive resistance (generalized wrong
> information) or to boycott (usage of other TLDs or open roots).

  Open roots have by the Whois Task forces poor recommendations,
gained more stakeholders.  However this trend has been on an
upsurge over the past year due to a number of other poor and 
unsupported policy recommendations and ongoings of ICANN as well...

Accurate information need not have included, and should not have
included personal and private information of registrants.  Including
personal and private registrant information such as the Whois Task
force, without public support, recommended, shall, and already
has encouraged identity theft, fraud, and provided a very
useful tool for terrorists.  However the BC and IPC lobbied 
hard and won for now, that that information was essential to 
accuracy.  This of course will spur legal action, as
Jeff N. is finding out or will soon.

  This of course concerns me and many other US Military
veterans with respect to Nuestar's contract to manage the
.US registry, as well as shown Jeff Nuemans Nuelevel
contract to manage .BIZ which as many of us have witnessed
has been of very questionable quality in that managment.

> Should the
> Iraqi war go on (our role here is to consider the DNS issues) I would
> fear
> a destabilization of the whole naming system should the fashion
> develop to
> internationalize and detach oneself from an US image (I understand
> that the
> US airline industry openly discussed that risk with the USG, we could
> not
> be serious if we did not at least consider it prior to adding to an
> increasingly questionned/resented system). I think that relaxing the
> WhoIS
> to its minimum necessity is now an absolute commercial need for NSI.

  Not only to NSI is such an absolute commercial necessity.

>
> jfc
>
>
>
>
> On 03:37 14/03/03, Neuman, Jeff said:
>
> >I usually do not step into these debates (since I am not a noncomm
> member,
> >but I do like to follow the debates), but as a member of the US
> Policy
> >Council, I have to correct a misunderstanding.  The US Policy Council
>
> >discussed Whois Accuracy for several meetings and then I (along with
> the
> >rest of Council) asked Mike to draw up the proposal that was being
> >discussed.  Mike submitted the proposal, but it was in response to
> what we
> >(the Council) asked him to and he volunteered to draft up our
> thoughts.
> >
> >I know for a fact that Michael is always championing Privacy rights
> (if
> >you heard him speak in front of the FTC a few weeks ago, or attended
> his
> >several presentations on Privacy laws with the Registrars and
> Registries).
> >
> >You can make whatever judgments you want, but I thought you might
> want the
> >facts first.
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: KathrynKL@aol.com [mailto:KathrynKL@aol.com]
> >Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 8:46 PM
> >To: DannyYounger@cs.com; discuss@icann-ncc.org
> >Subject: Re: [ncdnhc-discuss] my nomination for ICANN Board
> >
> >Only a few weeks ago, here is Washington DC, I was on a panel with
> >Michael.  The issue was Privacy and WHOIS, with a twist.  The US
> Federal
> >Trade Commission wants much more accuracy in the WHOIS database -- as
> they
> >pursue fraud across borders.
> >
> >Marilyn Cade proposed her WHOIS Task Force Report as the "right
> answer"
> >and the FTC was very supportive.  Michael said no.  He said that
> there
> >were privacy reasons why the data required of domain name registrants
>
> >should not be globally available to all.  He said that Marilyn's
> report
> >was not the right answer, and we needed to explore better ways of
> >improving accuracy and privacy.
> >
> >It was a strong position to take, and he did it with Marilyn on the
> panel,
> >too.
> >kathy
> >
> >>
> >>With all due respect, at a time when the Community was in the midst
> of the
> >>debate on WHOIS (accuracy vs. privacy), Michael Palage produced a
> document
> >>for the .us Policy Council favoring "accuracy".  Please see
> >>http://www.neustar.us/policycouncil/palage_whoisdata.pdf and decide
> for
> >>yourself the degree to which Michael supports the views of this
> constituency.
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Regards,
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Jeffrey A. Williams
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