<<<
Chronological Index
>>> <<<
Thread Index
>>>
Re: [ga] ICANN Staff's at-large website
Oh Joe!
This is completely out of line and accurate and rude and wrong and
disgusting and correct.
e
>
> On Tue, 18 Mar 2003, Jeff Williams wrote:
>
>> Abel and all,
>>
>> I completely agree with Abel's concerns here as he stated them.
>> Vittorio has acted badly and in seemingly bad faith.
>
> He's perfect for Rio - Vittorio, Vittorio, oley & oivey.
>
> I've been watching some of this crap. Vittorio is the perfect ICANN
> crony. I can see it now - vittorio in a leather collar with a leash
> attached to a scrany ester polyester. she cracks the whip against his
> hairy buttocks as she screams roll over vittorio - and vittorio rolls
> over.
>
> it's time for me to go back to my coma .. poor vittorio.
>
> regards
> joe baptista
>
> Joe Baptista - only at www.baptista.god
>
> / An Inclusive NameSpace Banner System by
> Pysmatic.Pacroot
> http://banners.nomad/ /
> / Banner exchange program exclusively for sites
> other than
> / com/net/org. Support The PacificRoot and sites
> residing
> / exclusively in the Inclusive Name Space! Join now
> for FREE!!!!
>
>>
>> Abel Wisman wrote:
>>
>> > Vittorio,
>> >
>> > You clearly fail to see that the moment you resigned, the maillist
>> > was property of the remaining panellists, not yours to do with as
>> > you please.
>> > While being a panel member you had a limited right of access of that
>> > list, which represent the member-list for the organisation.
>> > By sending this list to non panel members and selectively upon your
>> > own decision you have demonstrated a total disregard for simple
>> > democratic rules, written or non-written.
>> > You have willingly and purposly thrown the organisation of a cliff
>> > while smiling in the rafters, making sure no election COULD take
>> > place by not giving the maillist to the remainder of the panel.
>> >
>> > If this is your idea of how to handle a position of trust and
>> > resposibility then I pity the ALAC, no matter what I think of that,
>> > with you as chairman and sincerely hope that ICANN has safeguarded
>> > her brainchild from the likes of you.
>> >
>> > No matter how you wiggle, you have only you to blame, the entire
>> > organisation has you to blame, but I have no doubt you wont loose
>> > sleep over it.
>> >
>> > You in person have no legal rights to a passwd for a site of an
>> > organisation you are no longer a panel member of, nor did you have
>> > the right to share that passwd with anyone BUT the panel members, no
>> > mattter how few were remaining and what their political agendas
>> > were.
>> >
>> > Abel
>> >
>> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > From: owner-ga@dnso.org [mailto:owner-ga@dnso.org] On Behalf Of
>> > > Vittorio Bertola
>> > > Sent: 17 March 2003 16:44
>> > > To: J-F C. (Jefsey) Morfin
>> > > Cc: ga@dnso.org
>> > > Subject: Re: [ga] ICANN Staff's at-large website
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Mon, 17 Mar 2003 13:42:44 +0100, you wrote:
>> > >
>> > > >2. Vittorio Bertola is the Chair of the WG-Web maintaining
>> > > > the site discussed by Joanna, being the only one
>> > > > having the password.
>> > >
>> > > False. I gave the password to the watchdogs. And I am not
>> > > Chair of anything any more.
>> > >
>> > > >3. there is a panel made of three not resigning Panelists
>> > > > including Vittorio Bertola, and there is a list of elected
>> > > > replacements that Viottorio refused to call. We will note
>> > > > that the last Panelist to resign were bored out by
>> > > > Vittorio innaction and that after the last resignation
>> > > > Vittorio ran a 8 days long vote of the Panel.
>> > >
>> > > You fail to mention that the three not resigning Panelists,
>> > > including you, voted unanimously to have new elections rather than
>> > > call replacements in and continue working. I simply
>> > > applied what we decided. You could have voted against the
>> > > election if you didn't want the Panel to stop working.
>> > >
>> > > >4. New elections are blocked because Vittorio Bertola
>> > > > made sure that the list of the Members would be
>> > > > given to two members with no mandate and no way
>> > > > to proceed, rather than to the Panel he chairs, as
>> > > > he publicly committed, and as any non ICANNer
>> > > > would do.
>> > >
>> > > This was my decision (given the complete lack of rules about what
>> > > to do in this case) to ensure the exact opposite - that elections
>> > > would actually happen, and that the rest of the
>> > > Panel would not be able to cancel them. If there are
>> > > practical problems that prevent the election from happening, I
>> > > have said a number of times that I am available to help the
>> > > watchdogs.
>> > >
>> > > >I thought that correcting a few erroneous details in the valuable
>> > > >communication of the ALAC Chair, could help better understanding
>> > > >the ICANN semantic. In ICANNers language NO means YES, etc. Once
>> > > >you understdood that, they become an as reliable source of
>> > > >information as any other one.
>> > >
>> > > Jefsey, I might say the same about you and all your dramatic
>> > > postings, with which apparently you are trying to put
>> > > pressure on me so that I give the list to you and you can
>> > > actually put your hands on the organization. Why can't we
>> > > simply have elections and let the members vote on who should lead
>> > > them, rather than you and Bruce ruling the organization alone?
>> > > There's no necessity for you to have the membership
>> > > list before the elections.
>> > > --
>> > > vb. [Vittorio Bertola - v.bertola [a]
>> > > bertola.eu.org]<------
>> > > --------> http://bertola.eu.org/ - Archivio FAQ e molto altro...
>> > > --------> <--------
>> > > --
>> > > This message was passed to you via the ga@dnso.org list.
>> > > Send mail to majordomo@dnso.org to unsubscribe
>> > > ("unsubscribe ga" in the body of the message).
>> > > Archives at http://www.dnso.org/archives.html
>> > >
>> >
>> > --
>> > This message was passed to you via the ga@dnso.org list.
>> > Send mail to majordomo@dnso.org to unsubscribe
>> > ("unsubscribe ga" in the body of the message).
>> > Archives at http://www.dnso.org/archives.html
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> --
>> Jeffrey A. Williams
>> Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 129k members/stakeholders strong!)
>> ================================================================
>> CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security
>> Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC.
>> E-Mail jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com
>> Contact Number: 214-244-4827 or 214-244-3801
>>
>>
>> --
>> This message was passed to you via the ga@dnso.org list.
>> Send mail to majordomo@dnso.org to unsubscribe
>> ("unsubscribe ga" in the body of the message).
>> Archives at http://www.dnso.org/archives.html
>>
>>
>
> --
> This message was passed to you via the ga@dnso.org list.
> Send mail to majordomo@dnso.org to unsubscribe
> ("unsubscribe ga" in the body of the message).
> Archives at http://www.dnso.org/archives.html
--
This message was passed to you via the ga@dnso.org list.
Send mail to majordomo@dnso.org to unsubscribe
("unsubscribe ga" in the body of the message).
Archives at http://www.dnso.org/archives.html
<<<
Chronological Index
>>> <<<
Thread Index
>>>
|