Re: [ga] Posting rights of Jeff Williams suspended for 14 days.

[Eric Dierker <eric@hi-tek.com>]

Well that is a little more pointed than my reply.
But I refrained from saying lest my books be burned by a man not elected any 
longer but dictating without elections.

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> Dear Thomas
> 
> I doubt if Vittorio went crying off to his mother over that remark!
> Frankly, I suspect that the German sense of humour is the problem here.
> Have you ever watched "Faulty Towers" and John Cleese doing the "Don't
> mention the War" sketch? It is a triumph of irony. Jeff Williams makes
> a passing and incoherent allusion to Mussolini and his trains, and
> you're all up in arms, and use it as a spurious reason to boot Jeff off
> the list! For goodness sake, man, you're acting like Hitler!
> 
> Richard Henderson
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Thomas Roessler <roessler-mobile@does-not-exist.net>
> To: <ga@dnso.org>
> Sent: Monday, May 05, 2003 9:56 AM
> Subject: [ga] Posting rights of Jeff Williams suspended for 14 days.
> 
> 
>> The posting rights of Jeff Williams have been suspended until May 19
>> for comparing Vittorio Bertola to Benito Mussolini.  Personal
>> offenses are *not* compatible with the list rules.
>>
>> Regards,
>> --
>> Thomas Roessler <roessler-mobile@does-not-exist.org>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Forwarded message from Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>
>> -----
>> >
>> > From: Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>
>> > To: Jim Fleming <JimFleming@ameritech.net>
>> > Cc: ga@dnso.org
>> > Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 23:08:16 -0700
>> > Subject: Re: [ga] "ICANN is still the only entity which can
>> > create gTLDs of any kind..." ?
>> > Envelope-to: roessler-mobile@does-not-exist.net
>> > Delivery-date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 06:39:43 +0200
>> > Organization: INEGroup Spokesman
>> > X-No-Spam: whitelist
>> >
>> > Jim and all former DNSO GA members,
>> >
>> >   Vittorio is well known for his exclamatory and frequently
>> > less than accurate statements in this specific
>> > area amongst others..
>> >
>> > I guess it is akin to Mousilinni's saying he made the trains run on
>> > time...
>> >
>> > Jim Fleming wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > > http://forum.icann.org/mail-archive/alac/msg00228.html
>> > > From: Vittorio Bertola
>> > > "ICANN is still the only entity which can create gTLDs of any
>> > > kind.. ===
>> > >
>> > > TLDs (or gTLDs) are not created, they already exist. Many
>> > are not used.
>> > >
>> > > ICANN was created by the U.S. Government, during the
>> > Clinton Administration.
>> > > With respect to TLDs, the agreement was that a handful of
>> > Proof-of-Concept TLDs
>> > > would be added to the legacy root servers to prove that
>> > there was demand and that
>> > > the DNS would not crash. At the time, only a small number
>> > of TLDs were considered
>> > > to be ready for the Proof-of-Concept. .BIZ, .WEB, .NEWS,
>> > .XXX, .INC, and .SHOP
>> > > were expected to be approved in a matter of weeks. It took
>> > **years** for the I* society to
>> > > rework the deals and to let others move to the head of the
>> > line. During those years, delays
>> > > were introduced with the addition of the artificial
>> > Registrar "accreditation" process. Prior
>> > > to Registrars, webmasters, ISPs, lawyers, etc. accessed the
>> > Registry directly, with no need
>> > > for accreditation. In parallel with the ICANN accreditation
>> > approach, other companies have
>> > > added TLDs to the marketplace in parallel. People are
>> > beginning to see that they would rather
>> > > have a domain name they prefer, that is reachable by
>> > 185,000,000+ users, rather than a domain
>> > > name everyone can reach but no one desires or can easily remember.
>> > >
>> > > The Proof-of-Concept expansion of the namespace continues.
>> > ICANN is no longer needed.
>> > >
>> > > http://new.chat.new.net/viewtopic.php?t=118
>> > > DAY 9 (Thursday 05/01/03)
>> > > .INC
>> > >
>> > > DAY 10 (Monday 05/05/03)
>> > > .SHOP
>> > > =============================
>> > >
>> > > Once the 32-bit DNS is used to do the market tests
>> > (Proof-of-Concept) and to attract users who
>> > > desire names, the 128-bit DNS services can be started to
>> > build on those existing customer bases.
>> > > TLDs that are not popular will fade from the scene. They
>> > still exist, they are just not used. Eventually,
>> > > a working set of 2,048 Premium TLDs will emerge, based on
>> > selections (votes) in the free marketplace.
>> > > Those TLD managers can then divide up all of the management
>> > of the address spaces to increase their
>> > > revenues, to help make sure that TLDs are supported and funded.
>> > >
>> > > ICANN and the RIRs are then simply the managers of the 0:0
>> > .ARPA TLD and IN-ADDR.ARPA.
>> > > There can be 2,047 other competitors. The I* society does
>> > not want any competition. The world is
>> > > ignoring that and routing around the I* society.
>> > >
>> > > Jim Fleming
>> > > http://www.IPv8.info
>> > >
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>> > Regards,
>> >
>> > --
>> > Jeffrey A. Williams
>> > Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 129k members/stakeholders
>> > strong!)
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