Re: [nc-intake] Agenda August 16 NC

[ceo@vany.org]

Hi Elisabeth:

Of course, I will investigate what you are proposing here.

About the needs of the GA in term of communications, I am fully agree that they need more than pure mailing lists.

But, I think the GA themselves should be able to determine what they want in terms of communications.

I would like to see a Working Group in the GA that deals with the following topics:
1.  Communications needs of the GA
2.  Effective and low cost solutions
3.  technical advisory

That GA members answers simply propose the things they would want to see implemented, or at least, the things they want to achieve, so then the working group, or commitee would propose solutions (I think that as far as such solutions doesn't involves costs or verylow costs, then why not implement them?)

What do others think?

Best Regards
Vany


On Thu, 02 August 2001, Elisabeth Porteneuve wrote:

> 
> 
> 
> Vany,
> 
> Making a summary of existing possibilities, as well as
> determining the cost for developpment and making awarness of
> necessity of such developpment would be much appreciated
> by the NC.
> 
> I would suggest you contact majordomo developpers
> and ask them (1) if they plan to develop and include tools
> for managing limited number of posts per participant,
> (2) the cost for such developpment if the NC or ICANN is
> considering such feature.
> 
> Actually, the GA needs are drifting towards tools for
> managing electronic society rather that one electronic list,
> and we are facing this new challage.
> 
> Regards,
> Elisabeth
> --
> 
> > From owner-nc-intake@dnso.org Wed Aug  1 23:57 MET 2001
> > Message-ID: <20010801215646.61002.qmail@web12304.mail.yahoo.com>
> > Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 14:56:46 -0700 (PDT)
> > From: Vany Martinez <vany_martinez@yahoo.com>
> > Subject: Re: [nc-intake] Agenda August 16 NC
> > To: nc-intake@dnso.org
> > MIME-Version: 1.0
> > 
> > Hi Elisabeth and all:
> > 
> > Thank you for your clarification.
> > 
> > Then I misunderstood the request that Dany made.  The
> > scripts I found are for managing bounces only.
> > 
> > My apologizes for the confussion.  
> > 
> > However, and reading some of the scripts I have found
> > to manage bounces, I think that with the proper
> > modifications, it can be used to warn members of a
> > mailing list that they have exceeded the numbers of
> > postings (without taking away their rights to post
> > temporarily or permanently).  However, this won't be
> > automatical as we wish, but it can make lighter the
> > workload of managing a mailing list.
> > 
> > I suggest that Elisabeth shows such scripts to her
> > technicall staff in order they can do something with
> > them.  Anyway, the benefit will not be only for the
> > DNSO, also for mailing lists at AFNIC.
> > 
> > So because it happens that I was preparing myself to
> > speak about the tools I have found to manage bounces
> > with Majordomo, and not about scripts that send
> > automated messages for those who makes more than five
> > postings a day, then I think we should exclude it from
> > the agenda, at least until someone (me, or anyone else
> > who would wish to contribute with an script or AFNIC
> > saying that they did it).
> > 
> > Other approach is the we speak about it and what
> > actions can be done in order to get such features
> > (asking for cooperation of GA members to donate their
> > skills in programming, for example).
> > 
> > What do you think?
> > 
> > Best Regards
> > Vany
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- Elisabeth Porteneuve
> > <Elisabeth.Porteneuve@cetp.ipsl.fr> wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Vany,
> > > 
> > > Danny explicitely requested for automated handling
> > > of
> > > excessive posts, and not about bounces, and his
> > > request
> > > is duly recorded in archives. Therefore I wish it
> > > remains
> > > as it is.
> > > 
> > > Patrick Corliss and Danny Younder are set as
> > > listadmin
> > > for specific_purposes_ga_sublists (they requested
> > > for 6),
> > > any other lists are managed by the Secretariat (i.e.
> > > ga, announce,
> > > and all NC lists).
> > > 
> > > Hope it helps,
> > > Elisabeth Porteneuve
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > From owner-nc-intake@dnso.org Wed Aug  1 00:40 MET
> > > 2001
> > > > Message-ID:
> > > <20010731221112.55266.qmail@web12305.mail.yahoo.com>
> > > > Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 15:11:12 -0700 (PDT)
> > > > From: Vany Martinez <vany_martinez@yahoo.com>
> > > > Subject: Re: [nc-intake] Agenda August 16 NC 
> > > > To: nc-intake@dnso.org
> > > > MIME-Version: 1.0
> > > > 
> > > > Hi Philip and all:
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > I think that the point of the mailing list issue
> > > is
> > > > not about excessive posting.
> > > > 
> > > > The idea is to introduce a way to manage in a more
> > > > automated way bounces that are sent to the mailing
> > > > list manager when, for example, there is a problem
> > > > with delivery.   Anyway, bounces are not received
> > > by
> > > > members of a mailing list.
> > > > 
> > > > So I propose a different name for such point:
> > > > "Ways to achieve a more automated way for handling
> > > 
> > > > mailing list bounces with Majordomo"
> > > > 
> > > > Remember the idea of this is to lighten the
> > > workload
> > > > of the mailing list administrators (not mailing
> > > list
> > > > server administrator) has regarding managing a
> > > mailing
> > > > list.  As far as I know, Patrick Corliss is the
> > > > administrator for some mailing list, Dany Younger
> > > > administrate some other lists and I think that
> > > > Elisabeth administrates all the lists regarding
> > > Names
> > > > Council (Am I right?).
> > > > 
> > > > Best Regards
> > > > Vany
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- Philip Sheppard <philip.sheppard@aim.be>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > Thanks for your work over the last two weeks of
> > > my
> > > > > absence and I propose the following agenda for
> > > the
> > > > > NC meeting Thursday 16 August 2001 15.00 -17.00
> > > > > Paris.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Deadline for posting to NC (14 days) 3 August
> > > > > Deadline for documents (7 days) 10 August 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 1. Approval of agenda (5 mins) 
> > > > > 2. Approval of summary 29 June (5 mins) 
> > > > > 3. Motion on UDRP TF exclusions (Milton 5 mins)
> > > > > 4. Report from Budget/search committees on
> > > > > secretariat services provision. (Roger 10 mins) 
> > > > > 5. Proposal by GA Chair for an automated stop to
> > > > > excessive daily postings on GA lists (Vany 10
> > > mins )
> > > > > 
> > > > > 6. Reported problems in TLD transfers (Ken 5
> > > mins) 
> > > > > 7. Reported problems in lapsed TLDs: renewals
> > > (Ken 5
> > > > > mins)
> > > > > 7. UDRP TF formation update (Caroline 10 mins) 
> > > > > 8. IDN TF formation update (YJ 5 mins) 
> > > > > 9. Dot org TF formation update (Milton 10 mins) 
> > > > > 10. WHO Is survey update (Paul 5 mins) 
> > > > > 11. Review TF update (Philip 5 mins)
> > > > > 12. AOB
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > =====
> > > > Nilda Vany Martinez Grajales
> > > > Information Technology Specialist
> > > > Sustainable Development Networking
> > > Programme/Panama
> > > > http://www.sdnp.org.pa e-mail: vany@sdnp.org.pa
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