RE: [nc-transfer] Official gTLD Statement on the Wait List Service -- clarification, and looking ahead to the continued work of the TF

["Cade,Marilyn S - LGA" <mcade@att.com>]

I note that you spoke in this email to the TF, as "I". IF you are posting on behalf of the constituency on this topic, it would be helpful for you to specify when it is your personal opinion and wnen it is that of the Constituency. 

That is helpful to the TF considerations, and the documentation of submissions to the TF.   Thanks.

In any case, I do not believe that your postings will be accepted by the Transfer list... would you like me to forward them for you? While I am happy to do that, really, your two representatives on the TF should be providing that service to your constituency, as is the case with all constituencies and the GA.

Marilyn

Marilyn

-----Original Message-----
From: Neuman, Jeff [mailto:Jeff.Neuman@neustar.us]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 11:13 AM
To: 'Dan Steinberg'; Neuman, Jeff
Cc: Cade,Marilyn S - LGA; Transfer TF (E-mail); Dan Halloran (E-mail);
Louis Touton (E-mail); Philip Sheppard (E-mail)
Subject: RE: [nc-transfer] Official gTLD Statement on the Wait List
Service -- clarification, and looking ahead to the continued work of the
TF


I do not agree with your assumption that ICANN is required to "consult
before making decisions." It is only required to consult with the DNSO on
certain "policy-related matters."  Price does not fit into that category. 

If there is any kind of requirement for ICANN to seek outside input on a
registry service (which I do not believe there is), it should be via experts
in the field and not a policy-making body. 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Steinberg [mailto:synthesis@videotron.ca]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 11:00 AM
To: Neuman, Jeff
Cc: Cade,Marilyn S - LGA; Transfer TF (E-mail); Dan Halloran (E-mail);
Louis Touton (E-mail); Philip Sheppard (E-mail)
Subject: Re: [nc-transfer] Official gTLD Statement on the Wait List
Service -- clarification, and looking ahead to the continued work of the
TF


Thanks for the clarification, Jeff

But 

* since what the TF is doing is making recommendations to the board (you
will note the use of the word *recommendation* or *recommend*
throughout) and the use of the conditional (if ICANN does not follow the
recommendations, then we recommend the alternative) and
* since you agree that registries are required to seek approval from
ICANN, and
* since ICANN has the mandate to consult before making decisions

Can you explain to me why you consider the process of ICANN bia the DNSO
asking the for TF recommendations inappropriate? Its not as if the TF
has any power.  We are merely making recommendations.


"Neuman, Jeff" wrote:
> 
> According to our Agreements with ICANN, the registries are required to
seek
> approval from ICANN (note I did not say the DNSO, or a policy body within
> ICANN) for any pricing (or changes to prices) new registry services. It
was
> never contemplated by the registries that the DNSO (or any policy body)
> would have jurisdiction over such terms and conditions.
> 
> In our view, and as one who was very active in the contract negotiations
> with ICANN on behalf of NeuLevel, pricing was never considered a policy
> matter.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dan Steinberg [mailto:synthesis@videotron.ca]
> Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 12:51 AM
> To: Cade,Marilyn S - LGA
> Cc: Jeff Neuman (E-mail); Transfer TF (E-mail); Dan Halloran (E-mail);
> Louis Touton (E-mail); Philip Sheppard (E-mail)
> Subject: Re: [nc-transfer] Official gTLD Statement on the Wait List
> Service -- clarification, and looking ahead to the continued work of the
> TF
> 
> Jeff,
> 
> I am curious.  If you believe that things such as the WLS are
> inappropriate for the task force and even for ICANN to regulate then why
> not just implement them wihtout seeking approval?  Why are you seeking
> ICANN approval for an ammendment to Appendix G in the first place?
> 
> --
> Dan Steinberg
> 
> SYNTHESIS:Law & Technology
> 35, du Ravin            phone: (613) 794-5356
> Chelsea, Quebec         fax:   (819) 827-4398
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-- 
Dan Steinberg

SYNTHESIS:Law & Technology
35, du Ravin		phone: (613) 794-5356
Chelsea, Quebec		fax:   (819) 827-4398
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