RE: [registrars] FW: Application for domaininfo.biz

["Donny Simonton" <donny@intercosmos.com>]

Bhavin,
We have been "inundated", by our customers complaining that another
registrar has their contact information!

No matter how you put it, this is SPAM!

Donny

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-registrars@dnso.org [mailto:owner-registrars@dnso.org] On
> Behalf Of Bhavin Turakhia
> Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 9:47 AM
> To: registrars@dnso.org
> Subject: RE: [registrars] FW: Application for domaininfo.biz
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I believe this mail originates from us, and I am glad it is up for
debate.
> 
> Couple of points I would like to make -
> 
> * I have been closely in touch with Neulevel before sending this mail
(and
> any others)
> 
> * Most IP Claimants have this inherent feeling that by purchasing an
IP
> Claim on the domain name they are secure, and that they will get their
> domain name irrespective of whatever happens in this Round Robin. You
may
> do
> a survey yourself and obtain similar results. This is because during
the
> IP
> Claim sale phase a large number of Resellers convinced companies that
the
> only way to protect their IP interests was to buy a $90 IP Claim, and
that
> by buying it their interests would be secured.
> 
> * Thos who are aware that they do not have any special chances of
getting
> their domain name are not aware that they would need to fork out $1500
per
> domain name to win their domain name back if a Speculator gets it.
> 
> * Over the last 2 months since the .BIZ Round Robin process was
announced,
> a
> large number of Customers have approached us, and other Registrars who
we
> have spoken to to apply for Domain Names in the Round Robin process.
We
> took
> a distribution set of these clients and found out that over 96% of
these
> clients are speculators.
> 
> * In .INFO there were well over 1500 Sunrise Challenges and over 10000
> more
> filed by Afilias itself at a value of $249 per Challenge it comes to a
> wastage of over $2.8 million. Additionally a large number of genuine
IP
> holders still missed out on their domain names
> 
> * When we initially investigated various business models of various
> Registrars, we realised that in the .BIZ queue too a large number of
> domain
> names would end up going to the Speculators resulting in Domain Name
and
> IP
> mayhem of the kind never seen before. Speculators could hold IP
Claimants
> ransom since IP Claimants would need to spend $1500 to obtain a name
with
> no
> guarantee of results
> 
> * We decided therefore to work an alternative strategy and assist only
IP
> Claimants in obtaining their names. Therefore we have submitted all
our
> names through various other key Registrars as well as our own queue on
> behalf of only IP Claimant holders. We have put in our details for the
> Registration of the name and will change that after registration to
the
> appropriate IP Claim Holder and transfer the domain name to them. This
was
> the only way to prevent Speculators from getting hold of these names
and
> then IP Claimants having to file an expensive STOP proceeding.
> 
> * i have been practically inundated with email and chat from various
> genuine
> IP Claimants who were never aware of the fact that by having the ip
claim
> they would not get the domain name. All of them have been thankful
that
> someone atleast bothered to put up 10 pages of comprehensive
information
> to
> educate them on the issue. some of the names of clients who have used
our
> consultancy to improve their chances include Samsung, SEIKO, Intuit,
> Suzuki
> etc
> 
> I would love to have a conversation with any of you about my feedback
in
> further detail if you would wish to speak with me
> 
> Best Regards
> Bhavin Turakhia
> CEO
> Directi
> ----------------------------
> Tel: 91-22-6370256 (4 lines)
> Fax: 91-22-6370255
> http://www.directi.com
> ----------------------------
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-registrars@dnso.org [mailto:owner-registrars@dnso.org]On
> > Behalf Of Per-Anders Hurtigh
> > Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 8:51 PM
> > To: registrars@dnso.org
> > Subject: [registrars] FW: Application for domaininfo.biz
> >
> >
> > Dear Fellow Registrars,
> >
> > It would be interesting to have your thoughts on the below practice.
> >
> > Best Regards,
> >
> > Per-Anders Hurtigh
> >
> > Domaininfo AB - a House of Ports company
> > http://www.domaininfo.com - http://www.ports.info
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> >
> > From ipclaim@directi.com  Wed Mar 13 15:58:09 2002
> > Subject: Application for domaininfo.biz
> >
> > Hi Mr Per-Anders Hurtigh,
> >
> > You have an IP Claim on the domain DOMAININFO.BIZ.
> >
> > You would have surely applied for this domain name through some
> > Registrar, yourself. However DO NOT LET this IP Claim lend you a
> > false sense of security about definetly obtaining your Domain
> > Name. We at Directi have conducted extensive Research on names
> > which have an IP Claim on them, and the chances of your getting
> > your Name are not too high. In the worst case your chances of
> > getting domaininfo.biz maybe around 1.25%
> >
> > Whats more... if you do not get domaininfo.biz then to obtain it
> > back using a WIPO Claim you will need to spend $1500 with NO
> > GUARANTEE in outcome. For details on the WIPO Arbitration process
> > please refer to the links below
> >
> > Fee Schedule:
http://arbiter.wipo.int/domains/gtld/biz/stop/fees.html
> > STOP Guidelines:
> http://arbiter.wipo.int/domains/gtld/biz/stop/index.html
> >
> > It is obvious therefore that this round robin is the only real
> > way to get domaininfo.biz. But with a 1.25% chance you do not
> > have much of a scope.
> >
> > We at Directi, an ICANN ACCREDITED Registrar, have worked out a
> > unique IP Protection program, in order to assist your chances. We
> > have submitted domaininfo.biz to queues of a large number of
> > Registrars on your behalf. We can now cancel these applications
> > or proceed with them, based on your permission. If you allow us
> > to proceed with these applications, it would multiply your
> > chances of getting domaininfo.biz by several times (over 10-15
> > times on our count). We are helping a large number of IP
> > Claimants like you obtain their rightful names. Unlike other
> > Registrars we have catered only to genuine IP Claimants and
> > trademark holders.
> >
> > You DO NOT have to pay us anything right now. What you need to do
> > however is prove that you are the genuine IP Claimant for
> > domaininfo.biz, since we do not wish to cater to speculators or
> > cybersquatters. You can do this by following the steps below
> >
> > 1. Visit
> > http://namesecure.directi.com/namesecure/step1.jsp?domainname=doma
> > ininfo.biz&ipclaimid=2413
> >
> > 2. Paste the below security code in the box provided on that page
> >
> > Security Code: Iv7Jz5I9EL
> >
> > If we do manage to get domaininfo.biz for you, we will charge you
> > a modest fee of $149. However if a speculator gets it instead of
> > you, you will end up paying $1500 to get it back. It is better to
> > increase your chances of getting domaininfo.biz for FREE. You do
> > not need to pay us anything right now. BUT YOU MUST follow the
> > above steps in order to establish your genuineness as an IP
Claimant.
> >
> > Couple of observations:
> >
> > Most IP Claimants have this inherent feeling that by purchasing
> > an IP Claim on the domain name they are secure, and that they
> > will get their domain name irrespective of whatever happens in
> > this Round Robin. This is because during the IP Claim sale phase
> > a large number of Registrars and Resellers convinced companies
> > that the only way to protect their IP interests was to buy a $90
> > IP Claim, and that by buying it their interests would be secured.
> > Those who are aware that they do not have any special chances of
> > getting their domain name are not aware that they would need to
> > fork out $1500 per domain name to win their domain name back if a
> > Speculator gets it.
> > Over the last 2 months since the .BIZ Round Robin process was
> > announced, we have found that most applications for all
> > trademarked names have been submitted by various speculators to
> > various Registrars.
> > In .INFO there were well over 1500 Sunrise Challenges and over
> > 10000 more filed by Afilias itself at a value of $249 per
> > Challenge - a wastage of over $2.8 million. Additionally a large
> > number of genuine IP holders still missed out on their domain names.
> > When we initially investigated various business models of various
> > Registrars, we realised that in the .BIZ queue too a large number
> > of domain names would end up going to the Speculators resulting
> > in Domain Name and IP mayhem of the kind never seen before.
> > Speculators could hold IP Claimants ransom since IP Claimants
> > would need to spend $1500 to obtain a name with no guarantee of
results.
> > Click here to find out more about our research, about the WIPO
> > Arbitration process, about the .BIZ Round Robin and what it means
> > to you as an IP Claimant, and about how you can improve your
> > chances of obtaining domaininfo.biz .
> >
> > Alternatively you can Chat live with our IP Protection team,
> > online. Click the LIVE CHAT link below OR write us at
> ipclaim@directi.com
> >
> >
> >
> > DETAILS OF YOUR IP CLAIM
> > Intellectual Property Claimant's Contact Information
> > Domaininfo AB
> > Lilla Bommen 1
> >
> > Gothenburg
> >
> > 41104
> >
> > Trademark or Service Mark: domaininfo
> > IP Claim String and Identification Number: domaininfo.biz 13314
> > Description of Goods and/or Services: Domain name registration
services.
> > Alleged Date of First Use: 1997-10-01 00:00:00.
> > Country of First Use: SWE.
> > Trademark Status: COMMON
> > Date "Registered" or "Applied For":
> > International Class: Not Applicable
> >
> >
> > Best Regards
> > IP Protection Team
> > Directi
> > http://www.directi.com
> > ipclaim@directi.com
> > Tel: 91-22-6370256
> > Fax: 91-22-6370255
> >
> >
> >
>