RE: [registrars] FW: Application for domaininfo.biz

["Tom D'Alleva" <tdalleva@bulkregister.com>]

Donny,
I definitely agree with your assessment, it is SPAM, pure and simple.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-registrars@dnso.org [mailto:owner-registrars@dnso.org]On
> Behalf Of Donny Simonton
> Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 12:01 PM
> To: 'Bhavin Turakhia'; registrars@dnso.org
> Subject: RE: [registrars] FW: Application for domaininfo.biz
> 
> 
> Bhavin,
> We have been "inundated", by our customers complaining that another
> registrar has their contact information!
> 
> No matter how you put it, this is SPAM!
> 
> Donny
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-registrars@dnso.org [mailto:owner-registrars@dnso.org] On
> > Behalf Of Bhavin Turakhia
> > Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 9:47 AM
> > To: registrars@dnso.org
> > Subject: RE: [registrars] FW: Application for domaininfo.biz
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I believe this mail originates from us, and I am glad it is up for
> debate.
> > 
> > Couple of points I would like to make -
> > 
> > * I have been closely in touch with Neulevel before sending this mail
> (and
> > any others)
> > 
> > * Most IP Claimants have this inherent feeling that by purchasing an
> IP
> > Claim on the domain name they are secure, and that they will get their
> > domain name irrespective of whatever happens in this Round Robin. You
> may
> > do
> > a survey yourself and obtain similar results. This is because during
> the
> > IP
> > Claim sale phase a large number of Resellers convinced companies that
> the
> > only way to protect their IP interests was to buy a $90 IP Claim, and
> that
> > by buying it their interests would be secured.
> > 
> > * Thos who are aware that they do not have any special chances of
> getting
> > their domain name are not aware that they would need to fork out $1500
> per
> > domain name to win their domain name back if a Speculator gets it.
> > 
> > * Over the last 2 months since the .BIZ Round Robin process was
> announced,
> > a
> > large number of Customers have approached us, and other Registrars who
> we
> > have spoken to to apply for Domain Names in the Round Robin process.
> We
> > took
> > a distribution set of these clients and found out that over 96% of
> these
> > clients are speculators.
> > 
> > * In .INFO there were well over 1500 Sunrise Challenges and over 10000
> > more
> > filed by Afilias itself at a value of $249 per Challenge it comes to a
> > wastage of over $2.8 million. Additionally a large number of genuine
> IP
> > holders still missed out on their domain names
> > 
> > * When we initially investigated various business models of various
> > Registrars, we realised that in the .BIZ queue too a large number of
> > domain
> > names would end up going to the Speculators resulting in Domain Name
> and
> > IP
> > mayhem of the kind never seen before. Speculators could hold IP
> Claimants
> > ransom since IP Claimants would need to spend $1500 to obtain a name
> with
> > no
> > guarantee of results
> > 
> > * We decided therefore to work an alternative strategy and assist only
> IP
> > Claimants in obtaining their names. Therefore we have submitted all
> our
> > names through various other key Registrars as well as our own queue on
> > behalf of only IP Claimant holders. We have put in our details for the
> > Registration of the name and will change that after registration to
> the
> > appropriate IP Claim Holder and transfer the domain name to them. This
> was
> > the only way to prevent Speculators from getting hold of these names
> and
> > then IP Claimants having to file an expensive STOP proceeding.
> > 
> > * i have been practically inundated with email and chat from various
> > genuine
> > IP Claimants who were never aware of the fact that by having the ip
> claim
> > they would not get the domain name. All of them have been thankful
> that
> > someone atleast bothered to put up 10 pages of comprehensive
> information
> > to
> > educate them on the issue. some of the names of clients who have used
> our
> > consultancy to improve their chances include Samsung, SEIKO, Intuit,
> > Suzuki
> > etc
> > 
> > I would love to have a conversation with any of you about my feedback
> in
> > further detail if you would wish to speak with me
> > 
> > Best Regards
> > Bhavin Turakhia
> > CEO
> > Directi
> > ----------------------------
> > Tel: 91-22-6370256 (4 lines)
> > Fax: 91-22-6370255
> > http://www.directi.com
> > ----------------------------
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: owner-registrars@dnso.org [mailto:owner-registrars@dnso.org]On
> > > Behalf Of Per-Anders Hurtigh
> > > Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 8:51 PM
> > > To: registrars@dnso.org
> > > Subject: [registrars] FW: Application for domaininfo.biz
> > >
> > >
> > > Dear Fellow Registrars,
> > >
> > > It would be interesting to have your thoughts on the below practice.
> > >
> > > Best Regards,
> > >
> > > Per-Anders Hurtigh
> > >
> > > Domaininfo AB - a House of Ports company
> > > http://www.domaininfo.com - http://www.ports.info
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > >
> > > From ipclaim@directi.com  Wed Mar 13 15:58:09 2002
> > > Subject: Application for domaininfo.biz
> > >
> > > Hi Mr Per-Anders Hurtigh,
> > >
> > > You have an IP Claim on the domain DOMAININFO.BIZ.
> > >
> > > You would have surely applied for this domain name through some
> > > Registrar, yourself. However DO NOT LET this IP Claim lend you a
> > > false sense of security about definetly obtaining your Domain
> > > Name. We at Directi have conducted extensive Research on names
> > > which have an IP Claim on them, and the chances of your getting
> > > your Name are not too high. In the worst case your chances of
> > > getting domaininfo.biz maybe around 1.25%
> > >
> > > Whats more... if you do not get domaininfo.biz then to obtain it
> > > back using a WIPO Claim you will need to spend $1500 with NO
> > > GUARANTEE in outcome. For details on the WIPO Arbitration process
> > > please refer to the links below
> > >
> > > Fee Schedule:
> http://arbiter.wipo.int/domains/gtld/biz/stop/fees.html
> > > STOP Guidelines:
> > http://arbiter.wipo.int/domains/gtld/biz/stop/index.html
> > >
> > > It is obvious therefore that this round robin is the only real
> > > way to get domaininfo.biz. But with a 1.25% chance you do not
> > > have much of a scope.
> > >
> > > We at Directi, an ICANN ACCREDITED Registrar, have worked out a
> > > unique IP Protection program, in order to assist your chances. We
> > > have submitted domaininfo.biz to queues of a large number of
> > > Registrars on your behalf. We can now cancel these applications
> > > or proceed with them, based on your permission. If you allow us
> > > to proceed with these applications, it would multiply your
> > > chances of getting domaininfo.biz by several times (over 10-15
> > > times on our count). We are helping a large number of IP
> > > Claimants like you obtain their rightful names. Unlike other
> > > Registrars we have catered only to genuine IP Claimants and
> > > trademark holders.
> > >
> > > You DO NOT have to pay us anything right now. What you need to do
> > > however is prove that you are the genuine IP Claimant for
> > > domaininfo.biz, since we do not wish to cater to speculators or
> > > cybersquatters. You can do this by following the steps below
> > >
> > > 1. Visit
> > > http://namesecure.directi.com/namesecure/step1.jsp?domainname=doma
> > > ininfo.biz&ipclaimid=2413
> > >
> > > 2. Paste the below security code in the box provided on that page
> > >
> > > Security Code: Iv7Jz5I9EL
> > >
> > > If we do manage to get domaininfo.biz for you, we will charge you
> > > a modest fee of $149. However if a speculator gets it instead of
> > > you, you will end up paying $1500 to get it back. It is better to
> > > increase your chances of getting domaininfo.biz for FREE. You do
> > > not need to pay us anything right now. BUT YOU MUST follow the
> > > above steps in order to establish your genuineness as an IP
> Claimant.
> > >
> > > Couple of observations:
> > >
> > > Most IP Claimants have this inherent feeling that by purchasing
> > > an IP Claim on the domain name they are secure, and that they
> > > will get their domain name irrespective of whatever happens in
> > > this Round Robin. This is because during the IP Claim sale phase
> > > a large number of Registrars and Resellers convinced companies
> > > that the only way to protect their IP interests was to buy a $90
> > > IP Claim, and that by buying it their interests would be secured.
> > > Those who are aware that they do not have any special chances of
> > > getting their domain name are not aware that they would need to
> > > fork out $1500 per domain name to win their domain name back if a
> > > Speculator gets it.
> > > Over the last 2 months since the .BIZ Round Robin process was
> > > announced, we have found that most applications for all
> > > trademarked names have been submitted by various speculators to
> > > various Registrars.
> > > In .INFO there were well over 1500 Sunrise Challenges and over
> > > 10000 more filed by Afilias itself at a value of $249 per
> > > Challenge - a wastage of over $2.8 million. Additionally a large
> > > number of genuine IP holders still missed out on their domain names.
> > > When we initially investigated various business models of various
> > > Registrars, we realised that in the .BIZ queue too a large number
> > > of domain names would end up going to the Speculators resulting
> > > in Domain Name and IP mayhem of the kind never seen before.
> > > Speculators could hold IP Claimants ransom since IP Claimants
> > > would need to spend $1500 to obtain a name with no guarantee of
> results.
> > > Click here to find out more about our research, about the WIPO
> > > Arbitration process, about the .BIZ Round Robin and what it means
> > > to you as an IP Claimant, and about how you can improve your
> > > chances of obtaining domaininfo.biz .
> > >
> > > Alternatively you can Chat live with our IP Protection team,
> > > online. Click the LIVE CHAT link below OR write us at
> > ipclaim@directi.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > DETAILS OF YOUR IP CLAIM
> > > Intellectual Property Claimant's Contact Information
> > > Domaininfo AB
> > > Lilla Bommen 1
> > >
> > > Gothenburg
> > >
> > > 41104
> > >
> > > Trademark or Service Mark: domaininfo
> > > IP Claim String and Identification Number: domaininfo.biz 13314
> > > Description of Goods and/or Services: Domain name registration
> services.
> > > Alleged Date of First Use: 1997-10-01 00:00:00.
> > > Country of First Use: SWE.
> > > Trademark Status: COMMON
> > > Date "Registered" or "Applied For":
> > > International Class: Not Applicable
> > >
> > >
> > > Best Regards
> > > IP Protection Team
> > > Directi
> > > http://www.directi.com
> > > ipclaim@directi.com
> > > Tel: 91-22-6370256
> > > Fax: 91-22-6370255
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > 
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