RE: [registrars] whois lookup

["Bhavin Turakhia" <bhavin.t@directi.com>]

1. i think this is a terrific idea

2. i cannot use it if i have to purchase a license for it. Rob, can u
clarify what you mean when you say "we would welcome discussion with any
registrar who wishes to license this from us"

bhavin

> Applied for the pattent? I'll be digging up all my prior art, I think I
> even posted the methodology to the IETF lists as an Internet Draft, the
> Registrars list and I think its in at least one of the old gTLD bids.
>
> don't pattent processes that there are lots of prior art for.
>
> -rick
>
>
> On Mon, 3 Jun 2002, Rob Hall wrote:
>
> > Paul,
> >
> > It is us that is doing it ... we call it "alias email", and we
> have applied
> > for a patent on the process.  We would welcome discussion with
> any registrar
> > who wishes to license this from us.
> >
> >
> > Rob.
> > Namescout.com
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-registrars@dnso.org [mailto:owner-registrars@dnso.org]On
> > Behalf Of Paul Stahura
> > Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 2:19 PM
> > To: Registrars@Dnso. Org
> > Subject: RE: [registrars] whois lookup
> >
> >
> > Just like with illegal drugs, there is the supply-side and the
> demand-side.
> > What Ken is talking about below is the demand-side.
> > He makes valid point that I happen to agree with.
> >
> > An additional way of limiting the abuse is on the supply-side.
> > We are contemplating implementing an "whois-email-address-changer"
> > service whereby the email addresses in eNom's port-43 output
> > will be dynamic.  I forget which other registrar is already doing this
> > (or soimething similar) (please tell me if you know which one)
> > This service will change the outputted email addresses to
> something like:
> > "thisaddrwillexpirein24hours.code1234567890@whoisemailforwarder.com"
> > all email sent to this address will be forwarded to the real address.
> > These addresses will be valid for a period of time
> > (like 24 hours, or a week) at which time it will never be used again.
> > This gives registrars enough time to send xfer notices (or whatever
> > "good" purposes we use the info for), yet
> > would then invalidate any abuser's scrapped whois information
> > every 24-hours.
> > The real addresses will still be publically available in our web-based
> > whois,
> > just like it is now.  (email addrs are outputted as a gif images there
> > which is harder to grab/parse, since you need OCR to do so).
> >
> > Comments?
> >
> > Paul
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ken Stubbs [mailto:kstubbs@digitel.net]
> > Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 5:29 AM
> > To: Ross Wm. Rader; Registrars@Dnso. Org
> > Subject: Re: [registrars] whois lookup
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I would assume that this kind of behavior I described  would affect ALL
> > registrar's image and would be sanctioned under any proposed
> registrar "code
> > of conduct" .
> >
> > improper registrar actions towards outside parties (be they their own
> > customers, other registrars customers or registries) can
> influence outsiders
> > views of our "constituents" and that is of paramount concern to me.
> >
> > I am frankly tired of people using  the improper actions of a
> few registrars
> > to "paint" all registrars.
> >
> > if we want to have future creditability for our constituency,
> then we need
> > to be willing to "step up to the plate" and deal difficult
> issues like this
> > which affect our respective business image..
> >
> > any registrar who uses improper & unethical  business practices to
> > "advantage" themselves in the marketplace needs to be "strongly
> sanctioned"
> > and the issues I raise most definitely fall within this area.
> >
> > ken stubbs
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Ross Wm. Rader" <ross@tucows.com>
> > To: "Ken Stubbs" <kstubbs@digitel.net>; "Bhavin Turakhia"
> > <bhavin.t@directi.com>; "Registrars@Dnso. Org" <registrars@dnso.org>
> > Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 8:00 AM
> > Subject: Re: [registrars] whois lookup
> >
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > > how do you suggest we deal with registrars who
> intentionally data mine
> > the
> > > > "thick registries "
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ken stubbs
> > >
> > > That's a problem for the registries to deal with. Let us
> instead concern
> > > ourselves with data mining of registrars under the thin
> model...each of us
> > > are directly effected...
> > >
> > > -rwr
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>