RE: [registrars] Credit Card Problem

["Donny Simonton" <donny@intercosmos.com>]

Sharing of stolen credit cards is still fraud.  The dnso list is
archived and if you posted a stolen credit card to this list would stop
some CC thief from browsing the list and using the credit card at some
other company.

The simple way to stop bogus emails is to send the person an email with
an authorization code when they create an account with you.  That way
you know the information is valid for at least 30 seconds.

Donny

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-registrars@dnso.org [mailto:owner-registrars@dnso.org] On
> Behalf Of JP
> Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 4:31 PM
> To: registrars@dnso.org
> Subject: Re: [registrars] Credit Card Problem
> 
> All,
> 
> I agree on both accounts, we should get refunded on the unused deleted
> years, and we should share the information on fraudulent use of credit
> cards.
> I do not se why the sharing of stolen credit card numbers and or bogus
> e-mail addresses could be a privacy problem.
> We should address this issue as soon as possible.
> 
> JP
> 
> 
> > From: Paul Goldstone <paulg@domainit.com>
> > Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 14:47:56 -0400
> > To: "Joyce Lin" <joyce@007names.com>
> > Cc: "Michael D. Palage" <michael@palage.com>, <registrars@dnso.org>
> > Subject: Re: [registrars] Credit Card Problem
> >
> > Joyce,
> >
> > I completely agree.  We come across our share of fraudulent
registrants
> > (mainly 10 year regs and certain countries) and more often than not,
we
> > trace them back to bogus records at other registrars too.  I've been
> hoping
> > for a shared list of fraudulent users since the early days and
expected
> it
> > to come into play with the introduction of ICANN.  IOW, I'm all for
it.
> >
> > ~Paul
> >
> > At 02:13 PM 9/25/2002 -0400, Joyce Lin wrote:
> >> All,
> >>
> >> I have expressed concern about the credit card fraud issue a few
weeks
> ago.
> >> As I said that those abusers tend to go to the extreme, 10 years
> >> registrations. I strongly believe the registry should refund us the
> >> remaining whole years of registration fees when we delete the
domain
> name
> >> after a fraud is discovered.
> >>
> >> To request a card code is one more step to reduce the fraud. I have
> >> identified one of our abusers also owns some other domain names and
I
> wish
> >> we registrars could share that type of informations in a private
> manner.
> >>
> >> Joyce
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Michael D. Palage" <michael@palage.com>
> >> To: <registrars@dnso.org>
> >> Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 1:35 PM
> >> Subject: [registrars] Credit Card Problem
> >>
> >>
> >>> As I have indicated to the list in the past credit card problem is
a
> >> growing
> >>> problem within our industry, in fact I was surprise to hear on
> >>> Register.com's Third Quarter 2002 Update Conference Call how bad
the
> >> problem
> >>> is. http://biz.yahoo.com/cc/2/21512.html.
> >>>
> >>> I would really like to assemble a group of people to start looking
at
> this
> >>> problem. Moreover, if there is a mechanism to both reduce credit
card
> >> fraud
> >>> and enhance the accuracy of the Whois data this could be a win-win
> >>> situation.
> >>>
> >>> Let me know if anyone is interested.
> >>>
> >>> Mike
> >>>
> >>>
> >