Chuck - why did the registry decide to change its
format? This is causing quite the consternation among registrars.
Thanks, Elana
-----Original Message-----
From: Larry
Erlich [mailto:erlich@domainregistry.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 11:37 AM
To: Paul Stahura
Cc: registrars@dnso.org;
info@verisign-grs.com
Subject: Re: [registrars] WHOIS
expiration date for Auto-renewed domains
Paul Stahura wrote:
>
> I agree. A more informative status expiration
will
> increase renewals and decrease frustration
and confusion.
> The registry knows that the name
has not been paid for yet, correct?
How does the registry know that the name hasn't
been paid for?
Unfortunately I don't see a way that they are going to
be
able to explain this in the whois. That is, that
the
"date" is not really the expiration date, but
it"maybe"
the expiration date, so check with the whois
of your registrar.
The fact is, there is really no point to having the
expiration
date appear if it isn't authoratative.
And if it does need to appear, the only
solution
that I can think of is to encode it in some
way that
the average user can't decipher, but someone
who knows the
code can. Like the registrar or someone
who has taken the
time to read an explanation of the
date.
Expiration date 2004-01-01 could be
shown just as RXD20040101 or something
even
more cryptic. That way an average
uninformed user
wouldn't make a mistake when looking
at the registry
whois and thinking his domain had not
expired as has
correctly been pointed out.
> How about:
>
> "Expiration Date if name is renewed: 2004-01-01 (This name is
pending
> deletion)"
Doesn't make sense to do this. What is the point of
saying "Expiration Date if name is renewed:" Once again, how
would
the registry know if the registrar has or has
not been paid.
A renew command doesn't need to be sent
if the registry
has autorenewed the name. Only if it
has not.
Larry Erlich
http://www.DomainRegistry.com
>
> Paul
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nezih Erkman [mailto:nezih@erkman.com]
> Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 3:15 PM
> To: VeriSign Global Registry Services
>
Cc: Registrars Constituency
> Subject: [registrars]
WHOIS expiration date for Auto-renewed domains
>
> In the new WHOIS format, verisign-grs shows the
status and expiration date
> for the domains which
we all like the feature. However,
> there is a
little problem with Auto-renewed domains:
>
> When the domain is auto-renewed, the registry has
the new expiration date
> and this one is shown on
the registry WHOIS without any
> other indicator
that we or the registrant can tell whether the domain will
> is expired or not.
> This creates a
problem, because, the registrant thinks that the domain is
> renewed, and asks us to correct our records according to
> the parent company (the Registry). Or, they don't even
contact us thinking
> that there is nothing to
worry, then all of a sudden, the
> domain is
deleted.
>
> PS: This is
also problem for the registrar transfers. The gaining registrar
> will not know if the domain is Auto or Explicitly
> Renewed.
>
> Solution1:
> Show the previous
expiration date for the domains that are in the renewal
> grace period
>
> Solution2:
> Show the
auto-renewed date with an warning :
> ie:
Expiration Date: 2004-01-01 (Temporary Expiration date)
> or
> PROJECTED Expiration Date:
2004-01-01
>
> Solution
3:
> Show the auto-renewed date and use
status field
> i.e. "status: AutoRenew Grace
Period" or "status:Temporary Renew for 40
> days"
or ."status: Pending for deletion" , etc.
> but NOT
"status:AutoRenew", this would create more confusion.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Nezih Jack Erkman
> R & K GBS, Inc.
>
000Domains.com
> 501-779-1934
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