Chuck - why did the registry decide to change its
format? This is causing quite the consternation among
registrars.
Thanks, Elana
-----Original Message-----
From:
Larry Erlich [mailto:erlich@domainregistry.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 11:37 AM
To: Paul Stahura
Cc: registrars@dnso.org;
info@verisign-grs.com
Subject: Re: [registrars]
WHOIS expiration date for Auto-renewed domains
Paul Stahura wrote:
>
> I agree. A more informative status expiration
will
> increase renewals and decrease frustration
and confusion.
> The registry knows that the name
has not been paid for yet, correct?
How does the registry know that the name hasn't
been paid for?
Unfortunately I don't see a way that they are going to
be
able to explain this in the whois. That is, that
the
"date" is not really the expiration date, but
it"maybe"
the expiration date, so check with the
whois of your registrar.
The fact is, there is really no point to having the
expiration
date appear if it isn't authoratative.
And if it does need to appear, the only
solution
that I can think of is to encode it in some
way that
the average user can't decipher, but
someone who knows the
code can. Like the registrar
or someone who has taken the
time to read an
explanation of the date.
Expiration date 2004-01-01 could be
shown just as RXD20040101 or something
even
more cryptic. That way an average
uninformed user
wouldn't make a mistake when looking
at the registry
whois and thinking his domain had not
expired as has
correctly been pointed out.
> How about:
>
> "Expiration Date if name is renewed: 2004-01-01
(This name is pending
> deletion)"
Doesn't make sense to do this. What is the point of
saying "Expiration Date if name is renewed:" Once again,
how would
the registry know if the registrar has or
has not been paid.
A renew command doesn't need to
be sent if the registry
has autorenewed the name.
Only if it has not.
Larry Erlich
http://www.DomainRegistry.com
>
> Paul
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nezih Erkman [mailto:nezih@erkman.com]
> Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 3:15 PM
> To: VeriSign Global Registry Services
> Cc: Registrars Constituency
>
Subject: [registrars] WHOIS expiration date for Auto-renewed domains
>
> In the new WHOIS format,
verisign-grs shows the status and expiration date
> for the domains which we all like the feature. However,
> there is a little problem with Auto-renewed
domains:
>
> When the
domain is auto-renewed, the registry has the new expiration date
> and this one is shown on the registry WHOIS without
any
> other indicator that we or the registrant
can tell whether the domain will
> is expired or
not.
> This creates a problem, because, the
registrant thinks that the domain is
> renewed,
and asks us to correct our records according to
>
the parent company (the Registry). Or, they don't even contact us
thinking
> that there is nothing to worry, then
all of a sudden, the
> domain is deleted.
>
> PS: This is also problem
for the registrar transfers. The gaining registrar
> will not know if the domain is Auto or Explicitly
> Renewed.
>
> Solution1:
> Show the previous
expiration date for the domains that are in the renewal
> grace period
>
> Solution2:
> Show the
auto-renewed date with an warning :
> ie:
Expiration Date: 2004-01-01 (Temporary Expiration date)
> or
> PROJECTED Expiration Date:
2004-01-01
>
>
Solution 3:
> Show the auto-renewed date
and use status field
> i.e. "status: AutoRenew
Grace Period" or "status:Temporary Renew for 40
>
days" or ."status: Pending for deletion" , etc.
>
but NOT "status:AutoRenew", this would create more confusion.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Nezih Jack Erkman
> R & K GBS, Inc.
>
000Domains.com
> 501-779-1934
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