RE: [registrars] Washington Meeting - Draft Agenda

["Michael D. Palage" <michael@palage.com>]

Rick:

I do not feel strongly on this issue, as I believe there are valuable
arguments on both sides of the debate. I have always believed that the
strength in the constituency was measured by the number of participants.
However, there should be some reward associated with those members that have
paid their dues. I believe this topic falls within the by-law section and
how the future of the registrar constituency will evolve. Notwithstanding
the ultimate issue of whether registrars will be able to seat at the U
shaped table, they will be able to attend the meeting as that has always
been our practice as observers.

Mike

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rick Wesson [mailto:wessorh@ar.com]
> Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 12:42 PM
> To: Michael D. Palage
> Cc: Rob Hall; registrars@dnso.org
> Subject: RE: [registrars] Washington Meeting - Draft Agenda
>
>
>
>
> Mike,
>
> will only paid members be able to sit "at the table" or can any accredited
> registrar participate? Since all voting now takes place over the net, is
> there a reason to prohibit non-member participation?
>
> -rick
>
>
> On Mon, 10 Feb 2003, Michael D. Palage wrote:
>
> > Rob,
> >
> > I will get that information together and pass it along shortly.
> However, in
> > light of the new registrar voting software we have been using I
> do not think
> > that any binding votes will take place in DC since we cannot
> guarantee that
> > our entire membership will be available. The purpose of the
> meeting is to
> > foster a discussion on some complex problems and move forward
> with potential
> > solutions. The fact that we will be able to interact with
> registries on some
> > of these complex problems that impact both of our businesses I
> believe is
> > another positive step forward in the maturity of this fledgling
> industry.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Rob Hall [mailto:rob@momentous.com]
> > > Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 12:21 PM
> > > To: Michael D. Palage; registrars@dnso.org
> > > Subject: RE: [registrars] Washington Meeting - Draft Agenda
> > >
> > >
> > > Mike,
> > >
> > > In preparation for the meeting, will you be posting a list of
> > > those members
> > > who have paid their dues and thus have full voting rights.  I
> know in the
> > > past, some Registrars have been surprised that they were not
> > > current because
> > > of things like writing their cheque to ICANN etc.
> > >
> > > Rob.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: owner-registrars@dnso.org [mailto:owner-registrars@dnso.org]On
> > > Behalf Of Michael D. Palage
> > > Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 11:36 AM
> > > To: registrars@dnso.org
> > > Subject: [registrars] Washington Meeting - Draft Agenda
> > > Importance: High
> > >
> > >
> > > Listed below is the draft agenda of the Registrar/Registry
> > > meeting scheduled
> > > for next Friday February 21st in Washington, DC. I have compiled
> > > this agenda
> > > based upon various inputs from registrars over the past couple of
> > > weeks. If
> > > there are any other suggestions please bring them to my attention. Any
> > > issues that can not be addressed during this meeting will be
> followed up
> > > during the Rio meeting scheduled for March.
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > >
> > > Mike
> > >
> > >
> > > 8:15 - 8:30 (closed session Registrars only) State of the Constituency
> > >
> > > This will be a brief introduction of registrars in attendance
> along with a
> > > roll-call of currently paid members with full voting rights.
> > >
> > >
> > > 8:30 - 9:30 (closed session Registrars only) By-law Discussion
> > >
> > > There will be a discussion of the new Registrar Constituency
> by-laws that
> > > must be submitted and approved by ICANN. In light of the ICANN
> > > reform which
> > > no longer requires the constituency to pay for its Names Council
> > > representatives, the constituency is at a cross roads for
> where it would
> > > like to go. Currently we have in excess of $20,000 on account
> with only
> > > $10,000 of expensed committed so far ($2,500 DC meeting,
> $5,000 ICANN fees
> > > (last payment), and $2,500 registrar software). To date the registrar
> > > constituency has collected no dues for 2003.
> > >
> > > Moving forward the registrar constituency needs to decide
> whether it would
> > > like to continue to operate in a low cost environment or
> whether it would
> > > like to become more like a professional trade association. In
> the past I
> > > have personally opposed retaining paid staff, incorporating,
> etc. However,
> > > there have been several registrars that have raised these
> > > possibilities with
> > > me again and I think it would be beneficial to discuss the
> merits of these
> > > options.
> > >
> > > Also for discussion during this session will be the proposal made
> > > by Ross in
> > > connection with membership participation and Tom in connection
> > > with a policy
> > > framework for raising and advancing policy issues within the
> constituency.
> > >
> > > 9:30 - 9:55 Consideration for Registration Authorities
> Conducting Business
> > > in the European Union (open registrars/registry)
> > >
> > > I attended a workshop in Berlin, Germany last week and there
> were a number
> > > of panels dealing with issues that directly impact all registrars
> > > conducting
> > > business within the European Union. I will try to provide a brief
> > > summary of
> > > these laws and how they potentially impact your business if
> you transact
> > > business with individuals and/or businesses in the EU.
> > >
> > > - Effective July 1, 2003 non-EU registrars must start
> charging Value Added
> > > Tax (VAT) to all transactions with consumers in the EU. Current
> > > EU VAT rates
> > > range from 13% to 25%. In addition registrars must register with a tax
> > > authortity in one of the EU member states.
> > > - EU Directive 95/46/EC: deals with data privacy laws that are
> > > currently in
> > > effect.
> > > - EU Directive 02/58/EC; This directive goes into effect
> October 2003 and
> > > provides additional e-commerce regulation including among
> other things the
> > > use of "cookies" on websites;
> > >
> > >
> > > 9:55 - 10:15 Review and Summary of FTC Workshop on Cross Border
> > > Fraud (open
> > > registrars/registry)
> > >
> > > This will provide a brief summary of the two day work shop on
> cross border
> > > fraud. A number of registrars have stated that they will not
> be able to
> > > attend the workshop. The key focus will be on credit card and
> > > whois issues.
> > >
> > >
> > > 10:15 - 11:00 Credit Card Charge Backs (open registrar/registry)
> > >
> > > This will be a discussion among the participants to discuss
> the impact of
> > > credit card fraud within the domain name registration
> industry and what if
> > > any steps can be taken among registration authorities (registrars and
> > > registries) to mitigate this problem.
> > >
> > > 11:00 - 12:00 Update on the Whois Task Force
> > >
> > > This will be an update on the ICANN Whois Task Force final
> report, and how
> > > it potentially impacts registrars. Bruce Tonkin's proposal
> will also be
> > > discussed at this time and how it should be incorporated into any
> > > implementation policy. I have also learned a rumor that
> Senator Burn's is
> > > considering introducing a Spam bill that will have a
> provision providing
> > > third parties a cause of action against people that provide false or
> > > inaccurate whois information. I am trying to obtain a mark-up of
> > > this draft
> > > legislation since it could potentially impacts all registrations
> > > authorities.
> > >
> > > 12:30 - 1:30 Catered Lunch (Registrars and Registries)
> > >
> > >
> > > 1:30- 2:30 Transfers
> > >
> > > Ross will provide the latest update on the transfer
> implementation work.
> > >
> > > 2:30 - 3:00 Auto Delete
> > >
> > > Tim Ruiz will provide an update on the auto-delete task
> force, and we will
> > > collectively try to identify any potential bugs to prevent
> the RGP billing
> > > bug from reoccurring.
> > >
> > > 3:00 - 3:30 Redemption Grace Period
> > >
> > > Registrars and registries will try to discuss the problems
> encountered by
> > > registrars with the RGP, and see if there is a mutually
> > > acceptable framework
> > > for modifying the current policy and reinstating the 5 day
> non-billable
> > > grace period.
> > >
> > > 3:30 - 4:00 IDN Primer
> > >
> > > Andrew McLaughlin gave an excellent non-technical primer on IDNs to
> > > illustrate the potential complex policy issues surrounding IDNs.
> > > I am trying
> > > to obtain a copy of these slides to use in during this time slot.
> > >
> > > 4:00 - 5:30 Registry Presentations
> > >
> > > A number of registries that are co-sponsoring this event have various
> > > technical updates that they want to provide to registrars, i.e.
> > > RegistryPro
> > > is preparing for launch, PIR will be switching over to a thick EPP 7.0
> > > version; NeuStar has some updates on .CN and .US; VeriSign
> has some new
> > > market research that it would like to share.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > To date I have had approximately 20 registrar participants
> confirm there
> > > participation and approximately 10 registry participants. The
> hotel has
> > > extended the time period to receive the discount room rate. I would
> > > encourage all to take advantage of this rate which is around
> $100 a night
> > > cheaper than other hotels.
> > >
> > > Any questions let me know.
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > >
> > > Mike
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>