Re: [registrars] Re: Credit Card Proposal

["Joyce Lin" <joyce@007names.com>]

Mike,

I was originally thinking about posting the IPs those criminals came from
and some other related information if proven valid about them. Rick
convinced me that domain alone can do the job.  I wonder what kind of law
the "black list"  would violate if we only use it as a reference.

Joyce


----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael D. Palage" <michael@palage.com>
To: "Joyce Lin" <joyce@007names.com>; "Michael Brody"
<mbrody@tldsystems.com>
Cc: <ross@tucows.com>; "'Robert F. Connelly'" <rconnell@psi-japan.com>;
"'Registrar Constituency'" <registrars@dnso.org>
Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 4:21 PM
Subject: RE: [registrars] Re: Credit Card Proposal


> Lynn,
>
> We must be very careful about how we share this information. There are
legal
> pitfalls (statutes) that I have been told about which I do not fully
> appreciate just yet. Hopefully we could get the FTC to work with us in
> combating fraud by collecting this information.
>
> Mike
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Joyce Lin [mailto:joyce@007names.com]
> > Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 4:11 PM
> > To: Michael Brody; Michael D. Palage
> > Cc: ross@tucows.com; 'Robert F. Connelly'; 'Registrar Constituency'
> > Subject: Re: [registrars] Re: Credit Card Proposal
> >
> >
> > We should have a web page where we registrars can login to post
> > and view all
> > the domain names registered with stolen cards and may be with the
> > first and
> > last four digits of the card being used.  Once we have the list,
> > we will be
> > alerted if the name shows up again for registration or transfer.  Good
> > thinking, Rick.
> >
> > Joyce
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Michael Brody" <mbrody@tldsystems.com>
> > To: "Michael D. Palage" <michael@palage.com>
> > Cc: <ross@tucows.com>; "'Robert F. Connelly'" <rconnell@psi-japan.com>;
> > "'Registrar Constituency'" <registrars@dnso.org>
> > Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 3:47 PM
> > Subject: [registrars] Re: Credit Card Proposal
> >
> >
> > > I hate to muddy the issue here but there is an aspect of cc
> > fraud that we
> > > might be able to address within ourselves.
> > >
> > > The people who commit credit card frud have become more
> > sophisticated.  We
> > > have had instances where a domain was registered with a fradulent
card.
> > > Aproximately 45 days after the registration we get notice from
> > the credit.
> > > When we confirm that this is indeed a legitmate chargeback and
> > not an end
> > > user error we then attempt to place the domain on hold.
> > >
> > > At that time we find out that the domain has been transferred to
another
> > > registrar.  Calls to the 'gaining' registrar have been met with
> > little to
> > no
> > > support.
> > >
> > > If we were to put a system in place to work together on issues such as
> > these
> > > we might be able to at least partially address the credit card fraud
> > problem
> > > for issues of this nature.
> > >
> > > Michael
> > >
> >
>
>