RE: [registrars] ELECTION FOR ICANN BOARD MEMBERS - SEAT 14

["Tim Ruiz" <tim@godaddy.com>]

In most states in the US, if not all, there is a deadline by which you must
be registered to qualify to vote prior to a general or primary election.
This is typlically 3-4 weeks. Often you are allowed to register up to a few
days or so before a special election, but you still must be registered
prior to it to qualify to vote.

The rules for "registering" to vote in the consitituency elections in
question were laid out clearly. I personally feel that regardless of the
technical problems, miscommunications, etc., the only ballots counted
should be those cast in accordance with those rules.

This may seem hard nosed, but I believe if our voting process is to have
any level of respect and legitimacy, we must have rules and stick to them.
I thought that was what the second stab at the NC election was all about.

Tim

 -------- Original Message --------
   Subject: RE: [registrars] ELECTION FOR ICANN BOARD MEMBERS - SEAT 14
   From: "Michael D. Palage" <michael@palage.com>
   Date: Sat, March 8, 2003 3:10 pm
   To: "Rick Wesson" <wessorh@ar.com>

   Rick,

   Agreed if we cannot decide the constituency should weigh in as
   proposed in the new by-laws. For the proposes of allowing the
   constituency to make a fully informed decision, I have posted the
   email that was originally sent to all non-registered voters as well as
   the correspondence from Michael detailing the problems he was
   encountering with our efax account.

   Mike

   > -----Original Message-----
   > From: Rick Wesson [mailto:wessorh@ar.com]
   > Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 4:47 PM
   > To: Michael D. Palage
   > Cc: Michael Brody; Registrars Executive Committee; Registrars List
   > Subject: RE: [registrars] ELECTION FOR ICANN BOARD MEMBERS - SEAT 14
   >
   >
   >
   >
   > Mike,
   >
   >   This note is being CC'ed the constituency list because I'm not
   >   going to have this decided in a vacuum....
   >
   >
   > If this is your position, you have made your decision -- you have
   > the authority and capability to add the account, go ahead. I will
   > not, furthermore I disagree if you do.
   >
   > In my note [1] 4 organizations were able to comply with the 12 hours
   > allotted. I cannot make an exception here, nor will I agree with any
   > additions to the rolls at this time, closed is closed.
   >
   > In the spirit of full disclosure, I have discussed selling products
   > and services to Mr. Brody's company, this fact does not cloud my
   > view that once the rolls are closed they are closed.
   >
   >
   > -rick
   >
   > [1] http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/registrars/Arc02/msg00672.html
   >
   > On Sat, 8 Mar 2003, Michael D. Palage wrote:
   >
   > > Rick,
   > >
   > > I appreciate the tedious work that you have done with regard to
   > inputting
   > > the data. The both of us have been rather stretched thin as of
   > > late.
   > >
   > > With regard to the point you raise:
   > >
   > > 1) I sent the email to the registrar executive mailing list. I
   > can provide
   > > you the header from the message that I received after sending
   > it indicating
   > > that it hit your email server.
   > >
   > > 2) You are correct that we only accept efax applications.
   > However, Michael
   > > stated that he was having efax problems, based upon the 12 hour
   > > deadline that you provided I thought it was important to document
   > Michael's intention
   > > to register but the problems he was having. On a side note, I
   > believe you
   > > saw my previous email to the registrar list regarding the long
   > > delay associated with one of the faxes I sent.
   > >
   > > 3) My primary interest is to make sure that every registrar
   > that has paid
   > > their money was provided the opportunity to exercise their
   > right to vote.
   > > How Michael casts his vote is not relevant. I attempted to
   > contacted every
   > > registrar on the list that you provided to personally notify
   > them of their
   > > failure to register with the voting solution. The fact that you
   > > are suggesting that I selectively contacted registrars is
   > offensive. The fact
   > > that some other registrars during the previous election
   > insinuated that I
   > > accessed online voting results to support my candidacy of
   > Henning is also
   > > offensive. Since the inception of the constituency I have tried
   > to take the
   > > high road, the past couple of months have been well challenging
   > to say the
   > > least.
   > >
   > > I have several weeks before my successor as the Chair of the
   > > Registrar Constituency is selected. Until this time I will
   > > continue to
   > follow the same
   > > principles that I have used over the past four years. My
   > position is that
   > > Michael should be permitted to vote. He attempted to comply
   > with the rules
   > > as stated, but for technical reasons was unable to comply.
   > >
   > > Best regards,
   > >
   > > Michael D. Palage
   > >
   > >
   > >
   > >
   > >
   > >
   > >
   > >
   > >
   > > > -----Original Message-----
   > > > From: Rick Wesson [mailto:wessorh@ar.com]
   > > > Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 3:41 PM
   > > > To: Michael D. Palage
   > > > Cc: Michael Brody; Registrars Executive Committee
   > > > Subject: RE: [registrars] ELECTION FOR ICANN BOARD MEMBERS -
   > > > SEAT 14
   > > >
   > > >
   > > >
   > > > Mike,
   > > >
   > > >   1) I never saw that email.
   > > >   2) we only accept the applications via fax
   > > >
   > > > Did you tell Mr. Brody that his application was acepted? Did
   > you enter it?
   > > >
   > > > I entered all the applications I had (totaling something like
   > 14) that I
   > > > recieved via eFax. Did you enter any applications? Did you enter
   > > > his application?
   > > >
   > > > Do you have an interest in who Brody votes for?
   > > >
   > > >
   > > >
   > > > -rick
   > > >
   > > >
   > > > On Sat, 8 Mar 2003, Michael D. Palage wrote:
   > > >
   > > > > Rick,
   > > > >
   > > > > See the attached email in which I informed you about the
   > > > problems Michael
   > > > > had registering.  Were you able to add all of these people
   > to the ballot
   > > > > list. How many registrar do you record show that paid their
   > > > dues but were
   > > > > unable to register. According to my records it should only be
   > > > > three registrars AGIP (since received), Gabia, BookMyName.
   > > > >
   > > > > Mike
   > > > >
   > > > > > -----Original Message-----
   > > > > > From: Rick Wesson [mailto:wessorh@ar.com]
   > > > > > Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 3:17 PM
   > > > > > To: Michael Brody
   > > > > > Cc: Registrars Executive Committee
   > > > > > Subject: Re: [registrars] ELECTION FOR ICANN BOARD
   > MEMBERS - SEAT 14
   > > > > >
   > > > > >
   > > > > >
   > > > > > Did you follow  the directions posted to the list and
   > enumerated in
   > > > > >     see
   http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/registrars/Arc01/msg03439.html
   > > > > If you did tell me when you sent in the fax so I can review
   > > > > the information as our capability to add new members for this
   > > > > vote past yesterday.
   > > > >
   > > > > -rick
   > > > >
   > > > >
   > > > > On Sat, 8 Mar 2003, Michael Brody wrote:
   > > > >
   > > > > >
   > > > > > Rick,
   > > > > >
   > > > > > I sent my info to Mike Palage.. still havent gotten login
   > > in info for
   > > > > > voting.
   > > > > >
   > > > > > Michael
   > > > > >
   > > > > >
   > > > >
   > > >
   > >