RE: [registrars] Re: Nomination of Mark Jeftovic

["Rob Hall" <rob@momentous.com>]

Mark,

I was deliberately not commenting on your role on the whois privacy panel.
If one were to ask me about this, I would say you might be well suited to
it, given your technical background.

However, when you made the statement about your position with the CIRA
board, I had to speak up, as I believe it did not characterize the true
situation.

I find it incredible that you are claiming that you have never participated
in any discussions at the board level that only affected our registrars, or
were specific to our Registrars.  I do not believe this to be true.

And I don't believe I have a persecution complex, certainly not from CIRA.
But I do have a problem when our competitors use their position on the CIRA
board to affect our businesses directly and adversely.

But this conflict of interest is an issue that CIRA must deal with
internally, not this consituency.

As I said in my last email to Ross, we are chewing up everyone's bandwidth
on a CIRA discussion.  If you want to give me a call, I would be happy to
discuss it more.

Rob.

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Jeftovic [mailto:markjr@easydns.com]
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 5:27 PM
To: Rob Hall
Cc: registrars@dnso.org; Tim Ruiz
Subject: RE: [registrars] Re: Nomination of Mark Jeftovic



Rob,

Many of us in the .CA space are familiar with your persecution complex
regarding your registrars not to mention the antics which got you there.

I maintain that when wearing my CIRA hat I act in the best interests
of the Corporation;  not to the detriment or benefit of any specific
registrar. CIRA minutes are a matter of public record and my actions
in this capacity are recorded therein.

This is after all, a discussion on whois privacy. I fail to see how
baseless accusations such as these are germane to this forum or to
the task at hand.

regards, mark

On Fri, 13 Jun 2003, Rob Hall wrote:

> Actually, I disagree with this characterization.
>
> We operate Registrars that are CIRA accredited.
>
> We often find that the CIRA board discusses our Registrars specifically,
and
> issues that pertain only to them.
>
> Several of our competitors sit on this board, and they often are privy to
> specific information and details about our Registrars.
>
> To make matters worse, they do not recuse themselves, and often
participate
> and vote on matters that affect only our Registrars, in a negative way.
>
> We have complained about this activity in the past to CIRA, among others,
> with no result.  It is unfortunate that our only option seems to be
leading
> down the legal path, as these directors keep affecting our business in a
way
> that is negative to us, and positive to them.negative way.
>
> The CIRA board often deals with the fine grain details of a situation,
> rather than simply "directing staff".  I find that they are the only board
I
> know of that operates in this way.  It would be a dream if they indeed did
> operate at a high level, as opposed to meddling in a specific Registrars
> business.
>
> And Tim, I agree with you, it does indeed matter to me as well.  That is
why
> in my candidate conflict statement, I specifically mentioned past
> affiliations with ccTLD's and access to information.
>
> Rob.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-registrars@dnso.org [mailto:owner-registrars@dnso.org]On
> Behalf Of Mark Jeftovic
> Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 2:12 PM
> To: Tim Ruiz
> Cc: 'Ross Wm. Rader'; 'Rick Wesson'; registrars@dnso.org
> Subject: RE: [registrars] Re: Nomination of Mark Jeftovic
>
>
>
> On Fri, 13 Jun 2003, Tim Ruiz wrote:
>
> > Hello Mark,
> >
> > What is your level of involvement in the operations of CIRA as a
> > Director? Given that a number of RC members are .CA registrars, I am
> > interested in the level of access you have to information on their
> > business dealings with CIRA?
> >
>
> Hi Tim,
>
> As a Director to CIRA we basically approve the budget, direct staff
> to undertake a given activity, and approve or reject motions mainly
> rooted in policy. We have very little involvement in day-to-day
> or operational matters. While we have data about the total number of
> registrations under .CA, and their renewal rates, etc, we have no
> access to similar data for individual registrars.
>
> There are a lot of registrars on the CIRA Board, most of us having
> been elected by the at-large membership (myself included) and
> we have done a couple things to ensure the playing field remains
> level between registrars on the Board and the rest who aren't:
>
> 1) We recently passed a resolution to speed up the publishing of meeting
>    minutes so registrars on the board did not possess knowledge germane
>    to the others for an undue amount of time.
>
> 2) When a something happens that we feel is important enough to warrant,
>    we often give the Registrars' Representive Director the go ahead to
>    inform all registrars immediately, even before the minutes are
>    published.
>
> 3) Most of the registrars on the Board (myself included) are mindful
>    of potential conflict situations and abstain ourselves or declare
>    said conflicts accordingly.
>
> -mark
>
>
> > Tim Ruiz
> > GoDaddy.com
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-registrars@dnso.org [mailto:owner-registrars@dnso.org] On
> > Behalf Of Mark Jeftovic
> > Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 10:49 AM
> > To: Ross Wm. Rader
> > Cc: Rick Wesson; registrars@dnso.org
> > Subject: [registrars] Re: Nomination of Mark Jeftovic
> >
> >
> > I would like to thank Ross Rader and Jim Archer for thinking of me at
> > this time. My interest in the whois system has been both technical and
> > privacy related and I accept the nomination.
> >
> > My disclosure follows:
> >
> > At present I am one-third owner of easyDNS Technologies Inc., a recently
> > accreditted ICANN registrar. We have specialized in the outsourced DNS
> > space and have no involvement with development at any regisitry level
> > nor
> > do we possess any related proprietary knowledge.
> >
> > I also currently serve as a Director to the Canadian Internet
> > Registration
> > Authority (CIRA), my term ends in June, 2005.
> >
> > -mark
> >
> >
>
> --
> mark jeftovic
> http://www.easydns.com
> http://mark.jeftovic.net
>
>
>
>

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