RE: [registrars] Re: Nomination of Mark Jeftovic

["Rob Hall" <rob@momentous.com>]

Ross,

I respect your opinion, but I was not refering to the price decrease issue.

There have been several issues where the current CIRA board has discussed
our specific Registrars, and our competitors have participated in the
discussions and voted, to the detriment of our Registrars.  Often, the
policy discusions and outcomes affected only our Registrars.

It is exactly this board action that is often causing the friction.

But when someone claims the board members of CIRA have no specific knowledge
of any one Registrar and only operate at a "high level" on the board, I have
to speak up.  That is just not the case.  The CIRA board is one that
typically micromanages more often than not.

I would be happy to discuss this in detail with you if you want to give me a
call. (especially since I feel like we are now wasting everyone's time with
a CIRA issue, on an ICANN focused forum).

Rob.



-----Original Message-----
From: owner-registrars@dnso.org [mailto:owner-registrars@dnso.org]On
Behalf Of Ross Wm. Rader
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 5:02 PM
To: Rob Hall
Cc: registrars@dnso.org; Tim Ruiz
Subject: Re: [registrars] Re: Nomination of Mark Jeftovic


On 6/13/2003 4:33 PM Rob Hall noted that:

> Actually, I disagree with this characterization.
>
> We operate Registrars that are CIRA accredited.
>
> We often find that the CIRA board discusses our Registrars specifically,
and
> issues that pertain only to them.
>
> Several of our competitors sit on this board, and they often are privy to
> specific information and details about our Registrars.
>
> To make matters worse, they do not recuse themselves, and often
participate
> and vote on matters that affect only our Registrars, in a negative way.
>

Are we talking about the same CIRA? Also speaking as a CIRA accredited
registrar, I've not experienced or heard the same thing. I can't beleive
that things have changed that drastically since you were the CIRA
chairman and your CFO was also on the board.

The only issue that I've heard of where recusals were a problem was with
   last years first vote on price decreases where some took the position
that registrar recusals were necessary because registrars stood to
benefit. I, not a board member, took the position that then everyone
should have to recuse themselves as registrants that would stand to gain.

Given the historical friction between you and CIRA, I'm not surprised to
hear these things coming from you, but I doubt that few, if any, of the
leading ca-registrars would see things the same way...


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