Re: [ifwp] RE: Addition of Joe Sims to Participants Mailing List

["Christopher Ambler" <cambler@iodesign.com>]

As a shareholder in Image Online Design, the company
with the longest-standing operational prospective registry,
I would like read access and participation access to any
and all DNSO.ORG mailing lists.

Not knowing the subscription address, I must make this
request in public on these lists.
--
Christopher Ambler

-----Original Message-----
From: William X. Walsh <william@tjns.tj>
To: IFWP Discussion List <list@ifwp.org>
Cc: participants@dnso.org <participants@dnso.org>; discuss@dnso.org
<discuss@dnso.org>; Kent Crispin <kent@songbird.com>; Robert Shaw
<robert.shaw@itu.int>
Date: Thursday, December 17, 1998 6:25 PM
Subject: [ifwp] RE: Addition of Joe Sims to Participants Mailing List


>
>This would not be sufficient to stifle the criticisms of the lack of
openness
>in this process.  All this does is let us see what is decided by those on
the
>internal list, and not have any significant impact as to the content
itself.
>
>This is not acceptable.
>
>There is only one acceptable solution, as I have posted previously.
>
>Open ALL closed lists.  Divulge all list addresses being used for these
private
>internal discussions.  Welcome ALL who would be consider potential members
of
>the DNSO to join these lists and have some input as to the structure that
is
>being built to represent their needs.
>
>Begin making substantive and real efforts to include ALL stakeholders in
the
>process and to add them into the leadership of this organization.  We are
>talking about organizations such as Image Online Design, who to my
knowledge as
>not received a single invitation to be a welcome participant on this (Chris
>please correct me if I am wrong).
>
>Adopt changes in the current DNSO leadership structure and process that
>unfarily advantage the CORE/PAB structure over those of other interests.
These
>interests much be represented equally in the leadership as well as the
>membership of this organization, and must be able to have substantive
ability
>to affect the final organizational structure and policies that are being
>developed.
>
>In absence of this, I assure you, there will be a second DNSO formed
quickly
>and that will embrace all stakeholders, and build a structure and and
>membership to counter this DNSO and its behind closed door structure.
>
>The ICANN had the support of the USG from the beginning, the DNSO does not
>enjoy that support, and cannot try and use the same methods ICANN did to
get
>accepted despite substantial objection.
>
>And if anyone thinks that is not what is being attemped to have happen,
they
>are fooling themselves.
>
>
>On 18-Dec-98 Roberto Gaetano wrote:
>> Folks,
>>
>> IMHO the solution is to allow "discuss" subscribers to read
"participants"
>> posting, but not to write on it.
>> This guarantees openness, and that decisions are not taken behind closed
>> doors (besides that a quick check on the history of the lists can show
that
>> the only item of any relevance discussed on participants has been the
>> preparation of the draft report - and this is perfectly reasonable,
because
>> I cannot understand how those who didn't participate in a meeting could
help
>> in drafting the minutes).
>>
>> In fact, all the relevant discussion has been done so far in the discuss
>> list.
>>
>> What I confess being unable to judge is the technical complexity of
putting
>> this in place, but I would be very surprised to learn that this can be
more
>> of a few minutes work.
>>
>> Roberto
>
>
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