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Re: NAT in the original Internet (RE: [wg-b] RE: [wg-c] IAB Technical Comment on the Unique)
Roeland,
At 03:16 PM 12/19/1999 , Harald Tveit Alvestrand wrote:
>At 10:16 19.12.99 -0800, Roeland M.J. Meyer wrote:
>>Taste issues aside, NAT was part of the
>>original design concept behind the Internet, where local networks were only
>>assigned a few public IP addresses and the remainder were internal-only
This is quite simply incorrect. The Internet model was always for
end-to-end/global addressing. There have been many arguments about this
issue, over the last two decades. The outcome has always been in favor of
providing uniform, global addressing.
NATs are simply the result of failing to increase the address space quickly
enough.
The issue with LAN addressing is that the extreme popularity of LANs was
not anticipated. It was assumed that there would be a relatively small
number of very large, public, networks, with indvidual hosts attached to
them. Emergence of LANS motivated the creation of "classful" addresses,
permitting a few very large nets, a significant number of relatively large
nets, and a large number of small ones. It turns out that what is needed
is many more small networks than anticipated.
>>addresses. Public IP addresses were only to be assigned to gateway and
>>front-porch systems. NAT is only the enablement of this, already extant,
>>concept.
>
>Hmm.....I'd like a reference (and date) for which "original design concept
>behind the Internet" NATs were a part of.
Yes it will indeed be interesting to see it produced.
>The Internet grew from a number of ideas, including the famous "catenet",
>but I think that at the time of the Great Changeover (ARPANet turned off
>NCP and turned on TCP/IP, all in one night - Jan 1, 1983), the idea that
>all end-nodes had globally unique addresses was a fairly well established
>part of Internet "orthodoxy".
The concept of the catenet was to link together existing networks, such as
the Arpanet and a number of its siblings in Europe.
Perhaps the confusion is about this intent to run IP on top of such
networks -- think of them as equivalent to X.25 -- without touching the
lower-layer networks' addressing.
Over time, we are increasingly seeing the disappearance of the lower
layered nets, with IP being both the network sub-layer and the internetwork
sub-layer.
d/
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