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[wg-c] three bounced messages
From: "Judith Oppenheimer" <joppenheimer@icbtollfree.com>
To: "'Cade,Marilyn S - LGA'" <mcade@att.com>,
"'Robert F. Connelly'" <rconnell@psi-japan.com>,
"'Registrar Constituency'" <registrars@dnso.org>,
"'nSI Registrars Mailing List'" <registrars@NSIRegistry.net>,
<wg-b@dnso.org>, <wg-c@dnso.org>
Subject: RE: [wg-b] RE: [wg-c] How's this for spamming by a RegistraR?
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 12:24:29 -0500
> Thanks, Bob, for sending this. I agree that this isn't the
> kind of behavior
> which should be encouraged, or allowed. Marilyn
Marilyn, I suppose the delete key notwithstanding, I could
potentially agree with you (I do recollect not-too-dissimilar
AT&T spams here and there, just fyi ...)
Below is NSI's current spam, just hit my email box this morning.
You say this kind of behavior shouldn't be allowed -- by whom?
What exactly are you suggesting?
Judith
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To: joppenheimer@icbtollfree.com
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From: "Will Donaldson \(.$\)" <Will@DirectDesigNation.com>
To: "Dave Crocker" <dcrocker@brandenburg.com>, <wg-c@dnso.org>
References: <5.0.0.25.2.20001121010247.00a2b070@pop3.norton.antivirus>
<5.0.1.4.2.20001120185822.04242150@mail.bayarea.net>
Subject: Re: [wg-c] telephone numbers in domain names.
Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 23:20:01 -0500
Dave,
Forget phone numbers. What about going one step further to make this a
commerce navigation service vice a TLD? It ensures the names are not
diluted by first-come first served cyber squatters like .com has been and
.biz will be.
computers.$
turkey.$
shoes.$
television.$
digitalcamera.$
Sony.$
travel.$
football.$
IBM.$
When you use the .$ designation, it identifies commerce, and not a portal
page or personal website. So if you type in product.$ you get products,
categorized and easily sorted. Not junk. Not broken links. Not porn.
Just commerce listings for that "product." If a brand name is provided, it
will only return products from that specific company/brand, which requires
proof of right to prevent cybersquatting. Also presented by geographic
location, if desired.
Direct DesigNation.com started this last year and was installed on the #2
ISP in Canada, 3web, with nearly 1/2 million users.
We hired RedHat and they fixed the technical limitations of BIND to make the
service work on any BIND with minor config editing. Since there are foreign
characters being implemented into the DNS namespace, the .$ character
restrictions will soon be relieved, thus making it a prime candidate not as
a TLD, but as an e-commerce service provided by a single company outside the
scope of Verisign/NetSol which will work on any ISP.
ICANN's Esther Dyson said ICANN didn't need to get involved, as we were not
on a root server.
Will Donaldson
CEO
http://DirectDesignation.com
whateveryouwant.$
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From: "Judith Oppenheimer" <joppenheimer@icbtollfree.com>
To: "'Harald Alvestrand'" <Harald@alvestrand.no>,
"'Robert F. Connelly'" <rconnell@psi-japan.com>, <wg-c@dnso.org>
Cc: "'NSI Registrars Mailing List'" <registrars@NSIRegistry.net>,
<registrars@dnso.org>, <wg-c@dnso.org>, <wg-b@dnso.org>
Subject: RE: [wg-b] Re: [wg-c] telephone numbers in domain names.
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 13:25:29 -0500
There are obvious benefits of keeping ENUM out of ICANN's clutches, but
(a) the IETF ENUM working group's leadership contains people from Verisign
and NeuStar and others no doubt too, who are or will be competing with
Pulver/NetNumber for commercial supremacy in the ENUM marketplace: note
ENUM's rush to strike a deal with the ITU, literally just weeks ago,
questioned by some ENUM followers,
and (b), that rosy ITU path is not without thorns ... for example,
"1.e164.arpa" represents an area that's actually shared between several
North American countries; even within the US, the delegation to the ITU is
managed by the State Department while the regulation of telephony is
managed by the FCC.
(At the area code level its no better. Who has authority over
"2.1.2.1.e164.arpa"? Is this the New York State public utilities
commission, Verizon, or a third party? Still further, a potential use of
ENUM is to bypass the local carrier, for example to send documents as
e-mail instead of faxes; this means, potentially, a loss of revenues. So
while the users of phone numbers have an interest in listing their numbers,
the phone companies are conflicted.)
Bottom line: the IAB/IETF/ITU alliance against Pulver/NetNumber's .TEL is
business, not altruism.
Judith
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