Re: [wg-review] co-chair election system

["Chris McElroy" <watch-dog@inreach.com>]

What is so comical about it is they don't think this is wrong. And they
claim to be gathering public opinion while attracting 145 people to this
list.
Chris McElroy aka NameCritic
http://www.VirtualAdFirm.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "Eric Dierker" <ERIC@HI-TEK.COM>
To: "Chris McElroy" <watch-dog@inreach.com>; "Bret Busby"
<bret@clearsol.iinet.net.au>; <wg-review@dnso.org>
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 2:25 PM
Subject: Re: [wg-review] co-chair election system


> I just spent an illuminating hour and a half reviewing ICANN's
organizational
> information and the registrars agreements and I am now certain that
whatever
> restructuring occurrs it must include your notion of the board having a
clear
> majority derived from users or customers.
> If someone were to suggest that the governance is not controlled by
registrars I
> would now be offended.
> Sincerely,
>
> Eric Dierker wrote:
>
> > Is there general agreement that the users should have the largest say on
the
> > governance of the internet?
> >
> > Chris McElroy wrote:
> >
> > > No that is only to be in the IDNH. As stated before, Individual users
should
> > > have even more say in how things are decided through the ICANN than
any
> > > other constituency, including the IDNH, in my opinion. I still believe
that
> > > since anyone can be part of the @Large or Individual's constituency,
we
> > > should total the votes or number of board members of all the
constituencies
> > > and then give the Individuals one more vote than the total, giving the
users
> > > of the Internet the overriding opinion on every issue. Basically the
> > > constituencies would make their statements through there vote, then
have it
> > > presented to the public to see if they agree. If they don't then it
isn't
> > > carried.
> > >
> > > Simply adding the IDNH in no way balances the system. We can cancel
out the
> > > TM vote, but those in the business constituency, which really run the
TM
> > > vote as well still have a trump vote over the IDNH. The deck is
already
> > > stacked and us getting one extra card isn't going to make enough of a
> > > difference. It is a good start, but if the @Large or the public let's
say,
> > > have the final say. The constituencies would simply vote to present a
> > > proposal to the public. We aren't likely to get ANY agreement on this
out of
> > > the BoD or other constituencies. (Except possibly from Karl).
> > >
> > > But that doesn't mean that we can't try.
> > >
> > > "Just because no one has made this race worth
> > >  while, doesn't give you permission to stop running."
> > >
> > > Chris McElroy aka NameCritic
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Bret Busby" <bret@clearsol.iinet.net.au>
> > > To: "DPF" <david@farrar.com>
> > > Cc: <wg-review@dnso.org>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 12:17 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [wg-review] co-chair election system
> > >
> > > > DPF wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, 09 Jan 2001 22:30:21 +0800, Bret Busby wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >DPF wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > >But, then, as it appears that universal suffrage does not exist
on this
> > > > > >list, and, as I am not one of the elite, it appears that my
opinion
> > > does
> > > > > >not count, anyway, so, I suppose, in the absence of democracy, it
does
> > > > > >not really matter.
> > > > >
> > > > > What are you talking about Bret?  Every member of this list does
> > > > > indeed have a vote so what elite are you referring to?
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > I previously received a message, from the list, that made it quite
> > > > clear, that eligibility required being a domain name owner, which I
am
> > > > not. That did not refer to constituencies, but to the list itself.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > >
> > > > Bret Busby
> > > >
> > > > Armadale, West Australia
> > > >
> > > > ......................................
> > > > "So once you do know what the question actually is, you'll know what
the
> > > > answer means."
> > > >  - Deep Thought, Chapter 28 of The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
> > > >  - Douglas Adams, 1988
> > > > ......................................
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