Re: [wg-review] Re(2): [cctld-discuss] Comments on review ofDNSO by MrPark

[Eric Dierker <ERIC@HI-TEK.COM>]

Just a note of interest:  I sent several of the mails to my father ( 83, award winning mediator,
consensus builder and holder of several doctorates, speaker of a few languages and new internet user)
His response was "I only understand 3 out of 4 words, either speak english or send me a translation."
It took me a week to figure out who the heck IMHO was.
I suppose the point is we all somewhat have to translate the technical jargon, we have to teach our
leaders the language of consensus, even in english we have to translate legalease, this is all part of
the essential communication of governance.
I note that over the last 14 hours there has been the most diverse participation in this group than at
any other time.  The issue, multilingualism. I believe from a bottoms up approach, we answered two of
the threshold questions, do we need some sort of individual representation and how do we get more
participation.
As I understand one of the foundations of the whole review process, "are the stakeholders
represented?", per the white paper.  I have to answer no in that they cannot be unless there is a
broader language communication base by which to engage input.

Sincerely,

"Oscar A. Robles Garay" wrote:

> Ok, i respect your disagreement.
> But, let me disagree with "all DNS operators speak English".
> There is an abismal difference betwen UNDERSTAND english texts and DISCUSS in public in english...
>
> Oscar
>
> > Joel,
> >
> > first of all I disagree with Ocar, that the multi-language issue is
> > the cause for the great ICANN divide. That is just not true, in fact
> > it is the opposite, if we were to do this, we'd get into even more
> > problems.
> >
> > It has to do with power, money and influence. Maybe not in this order,
> > but nothing else. Bill Semich is right, again, that we need to put
> > these things into plain, simple, and unambiguous English.
> >
> > Secondly all DNS operators speak English already, or they would not be
> > able to perate the name servers. Never mind that a large percentage of
> > the .COM servers are misconfigured, but then the command of English in
> > the Land of the Fancy Elections has been argued about :-)-O
> >
> > And if we start considering it where does it stop? First the Krauts
> > want in, then Namibia asks that domain names must be able to include
> > the characters \!#/ so that Damara names are possible.
> >
> >
> > > robin@minervan.com writes:
> >
> > >> I think German should be included as well - if one looks at the
> > >> demographics, one will see that Germany is one of the countries
> > >> leading the technology trail on the Continent,
> >
> > Besides the fact that German is my native language this statement is
> > such UTTER, NAUSEATING nonsense, that I had to medicate myself when
> > reading it.
> >
> > >> and has a higher percentage of Internet users and businesses
> > >> compared to most other European countries.
> >
> > But, they have all had English in School, and in particular the people
> > involved in the DNS ALL speak English, without exception.
> >
> > >> Germany surely outflanks France and Spain, I think only the UK
> > >> might have more Internet users, although a higher number of
> > >> Internet companies might be debatable.  Even the at-large
> > >> representative from Europe is German. German is spoken in Austria,
> > >> Germany, South Tyrol (part of Italy), and large parts of
> > >> Switzerland.  Its the native language of a sizable proportion of
> > >> Europeans, not just Germans.
> >
> > I fail to the the relevance, of any of the above drivel.
> >
> > I can't care less if a country has 2 Internet users or 2 Million.
> >
> > The question is, do the DNS managers speak enough English to realize
> > that when dealing with the current ICANN they must lay back, close
> > their eyes and think of England?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > el
> >
>
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