Re: [wg-review] Re: dndef, 9

[Jefsey Morfin <jefsey@hotpop.com>]

Dear Eric, Sandy,
A domain is a very well defined thing indeed. Comes from mathematics.
May be Eric was thinking about defining what is a Domain Name as per
the iCANN, DNS and UDRP.

1. as you may have noted the RFC.0920 does not define the nature of
     the Domain Name.
2. you may also have noted that the RFC.0920 is a total opposition with
     the way Internet is managed today and is going to be managed in the
     future. Did not even thought about virtual hosts, aliases ... obviously
     not at multi-lingual Domain Names.

As most of the RFC concerning the DN management it should be rewriten.
Simple souls though it would be the task of the DNSO. Starting with 1591.
Simple souls though also that common sense would dictate that an
organization established to deal with Domain Names would first publish
a document about what it deals with... Nonsense. It first discussed ..voting.
Siple souls though the first task of the WG-Review would be to make sure
that we know what we are talking about. Yes indeed it did, and its Chair
published it was the pilar for any action... but delayed it, and the next
Chair buried it under ... constituency organization. No more voting really
but "seat protection".

On 02:14 05/02/01, Sandy Harris said:
>Eric Dierker wrote:
> >
> > We are all on the same page here. Defining domain is a worthwhile endeavor.
>
>There's a pefectly good definition in RFC 920:
>http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/rfc/rfc0920.txt
>
>| The Purpose of Domains
>|
>|   Domains are administrative entities.  The purpose and expected use of
>|   domains is to divide the name management required of a central
>|   administration and assign it to sub-administrations.  There are no
>|   geographical, topological, or technological constraints on a domain.
>|   The hosts in a domain need not have common hardware or software, nor
>|   even common protocols.  Most of the requirements and limitations on
>|   domains are designed to ensure responsible administration.
>|
>|   The domain system is a tree-structured global name space that has a
>|   few top level domains.  The top level domains are subdivided into
>|   second level domains.  The second level domains may be subdivided
>|   into third level domains, and so on.
>|
>|   The administration of a domain requires controlling the assignment of
>|   names within that domain and providing access to the names and name
>|   related information (such as addresses) to users both inside and
>|   outside the domain.
>
> >  We cannot do it in a vacuum.  Politics and economics are involved. The 
> majority here
> > seem to view domains as property of which the word is reflective.
>
>Granted, the definition above can be extended in various ways, and some of
>the extensions have political or economic consequences.
>
>Do you have some argument as to why we need such an extension?

Please explain sandy@storm.ca as per RFC.0920 or any other RFC
by the way. IETF had to be taken over, we expected the DNSO to do it!
Happily it did not!

Jefsey






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