Re: [council] Budget committee and request to ICANN

[Vany Martinez <vany@sdnp.org.pa>]

Hi Phillip, Erica, Peter and all:

Phillip: I understood why you said what you said.  You though Erica was 
talking about the Budget Commitee of the NC.  Noooo.  She was talking about 
the Budget Commitee of the ICANN.

Peter raises two points here:
1.  That no formal request to include the DNSO operations in the ICANN 
Budget.   This is different than request for $100K to ICANN.
2.  That also another possibility of get funding through formally 
requesting to ICANN that DNSO operations be included in ICANN Budget Committee.

Though we don't know if ICANN has discussed our request or not having done 
yet, maybe it would be good to know who will deal with such request:  ICANN 
staff?  ICANN Board?  someone else?
Perhaps, I would suggest that NC ask formally to our DNSO Directors which 
is the status of such request (being read, being processed, in discussion, 
will be voted in Stockholm, any other status?).  Or if they are not able to 
give us an asnwer now, then tell us what we have to do (wait...for example).

What do all of you think?

Cheers
Vany






At 02:51 a.m. 05/09/01 +1000, Erica Roberts wrote:
>Hi Phillip -
>
>Thank you for your response  but I think we may be at cross purposes here.
>
>  My concern is that the request from the NC re funding support from ICANN
>for the DNSO Secretariat does not seem to have been passed to the ICANN
>Budget committee.  Possibly, this is because it is being considered by the
>ICANN Board and/or staff.  However, since we have not yet had any response
>to our request for $100K funding suppport from ICANN, it may be appropriate
>for us to follow up on this issue with ICANN
>
>erica
> > Erica,
> > I am not certain we need to discuss this again. The budget committee is a
> > sub-committee of the NC and it is to the NC that the budget committee
>makes
> > recommendations. Also, if the NC requires budget related advice it may
>refer
> > a matter for a recommendation to the budget committee. The NC then accepts
> > or rejects the budget committee recommendation.
> >
> > Once the NC decides to act it does not requite the sanction of one of its
> > subsidiary committees.
> >
>
>
>Given that the NC has written to ICANN requesting funding of $100k to
>support DNSO activities, I am surprised by Peter's comment (below) that this
>request has not been passed to the Budget committee.  Perhaps this is
>something we should address at our next meeting and with ICANN staff and
>Board members..
>
>erica
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Peter de Blanc" <pdeblanc@usvi.net>
>To: "'Harald Tveit Alvestrand'" <harald@Alvestrand.no>; "'babybows.com'"
><webmaster@babybows.com>
>Cc: <ga@dnso.org>
>Sent: Monday, May 07, 2001 9:46 PM
>Subject: RE: [ga] Suspension of Voting Rights
>
>
> > Two issues:
> >
> > 1. ICANN could cover costs of DNSO, simply by including those costs in the
> > annual budget. I am on the budget task force, or whatever it is called.
> > There has been, to data, no official request from NC or DNSO to include
>such
> > a budget item. There _could be_, though, in the future, if the NC/DNSO
> > wishes.
> >
> >
> > 2. Meanwhile, I agree with Harald. the DN "Supporting Organization" is,
> > under current structure, supporting itself. One must "pay to play". Many
> > non-commercial organizations pay lawyers and lobbyists, pay to have their
> > representatives travel to meetings, stay in 4 star hotels, etc. All that
> > high-powered executive talent should be able to raise US $ 15 to $ 20
> > thousand a year. IN fact, if asked, I would donate funds to the NCC.
> >
> > Peter de Blanc
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-ga@dnso.org [mailto:owner-ga@dnso.org]On Behalf Of Harald
> > Tveit Alvestrand
> > Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2001 10:32 AM
> > To: babybows.com
> > Cc: ga@dnso.org
> > Subject: Re: [ga] Suspension of Voting Rights
> >
> >
> > It is not obvious to me either that ICANN can reasonably be asked to cover
> > the cost of DNSO operation or that the DNSO can permit those who refuse to
> > follow DNSO rules to continue to take part in DNSO decision making, even
> > when those rules involve paying money to cover DNSO operation.
> >
> > This viewpoint may be unpopular.
> >
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>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Philip Sheppard" <philip.sheppard@aim.be>
>To: <council@dnso.org>
>Sent: Monday, May 07, 2001 11:35 PM
>Subject: [council] Budget committee and request to ICANN
>
>
> > Erica,
> > I am not certain we need to discuss this again. The budget committee is a
> > sub-committee of the NC and it is to the NC that the budget committee
>makes
> > recommendations. Also, if the NC requires budget related advice it may
>refer
> > a matter for a recommendation to the budget committee. The NC then accepts
> > or rejects the budget committee recommendation.
> >
> > Once the NC decides to act it does not requite the sanction of one of its
> > subsidiary committees.
> >
> > Philip.
> >
> >
> >
> >

Nilda Vany Martinez Grajales
IT Specialist
Sustainable Development Networking Programme/Panama
a member of the Non-Commercial Domain Name Holders Constituency of the 
ICANN's DNSO
e-mail:  vany@sdnp.org.pa
Tel: (507) 230-4011 ext 213
Fax:  (507)  230-3455