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Re: Re[2]: [ga] Status of the Review Task Force



----- Original Message -----
From: "William X Walsh" <william@userfriendly.com>
To: "Peter Dengate-Thrush" <pdthrush@actrix.co.nz>
Cc: <ga@dnso.org>
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 11:46 AM
Subject: Re[2]: [ga] Status of the Review Task Force


> Thursday, Thursday, August 30, 2001, 4:33:14 PM, Peter Dengate-Thrush
wrote:
>
> > Its because the DNSO has in fact only ever dealt with gTLD domain name
> > issues that the cc's have voted to withdraw. The DNSO was never intended
or
> > able to affect ccTLD domain name issues.
>
> I don't completely blame ICANN or the DNSO for this, I blame the
> ccTLDs for it.
>
Interesting that you respond immediately in terms of "blame". My point was
not that there was any fault, just a comment on our recognition of a
structural/organisational mismatch that we are now fixing. We certainly see
it as a growth issue, not a problem for some one to be blamed about.


> Certainly the ccTLDs can see that the one major issue ICANN was under
> both governmental as well as public pressure over was the expansion of
> gTLDs, so a certain amount of focus on that should be understood.
>
An interesting demonstration of the cultural bias that is part of the point
we make. I assume you mean the US government's pressure. My government, to
the contrary, has not put any pressure on my organisation (Internet New
Zealand) to expand gTLDs, nor on anyone else including ICANN. This is true
for most if not all of the ccTLDs in the Constituency.

> However, what as the ccTLD community done to bring its issue before
> the DNSO for discussion and consideration and proposal of policies?
> Have they sat around waiting for ICANN and the DNSO community to bring
> the issues up for them and then have them dealt with?

Of course not. The question points out how little you know about what the
cc's have been doing for 3 years, which means we have, plainly,  not
communicated effectively to you about this. Fortunately, all of our
important stakeholders are aware of the effort that has gone into Best
Practices, Root server contracts, delegation and re-delegation, and
financing ICANN. Although these my be of no interest to you, you can find
them on the Constituency websites, and those of most of the Constituency's
regional organisations.

You will see that they have little if anything to do with domain names,
which is why discussing them in the DNSO is inappropriate.

>
> The ccTLD community needs to take more responsibility for getting its
> issues the attention and direction they require.
>
Agreed. Which is why we are forming an international association of CC
managers. We expect some of our time after that to be spent operating as a
Support Organisation inside ICANN. The rest of the time we will be getting
on with other major issues affecting us globally.]

Regards
Peter Dengate Thrush
Senior Vice Chair
Asia Pacific TLD Association

APTLD Adcom member


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