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Re: [ga] Songbird in the BC?
This comment sucks, and what really sucks is it's truth. I am sickened by Kristee's
post and revelation.
But if one of you think I am without alternative, think again. I was informed today
that my internet cafe grass roots project had better die and die soon. Well guess what
it is moving forward. Bye bye elitists. Say hello to a country club filled with wopps
like me.
Eric
PacificRoot Hostmaster wrote:
> That's a rhetorical question isn't it? Because we all know that the answer
> is, "All of them, as long as you're on ICANN's payroll as a confidence
> man."
>
> On Thu, 25 Oct 2001, James Love wrote:
>
> > How many constituencies can you belong to? I thought it was just one.
> > Jamie
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 24 Oct 2001, Eric Dierker wrote:
> >
> > > The following is one of the finest examples of elitist crap one can find. I can
> > > just see this - Old chap smoking a fancy pipe while directing his boy to clean
> > > his eight iron, "but of course anyone can join the club old boyo, Oh and by
> > > the way here is a statement regards ISPs my barrister drew up for your ignorant
> > > understanding"
> > >
> > > Get a grip Crispin your elitist days are numbered. Tell us about the Yacht Club
> > > deal. Tell us about your consultancy with ICANN - how about a financial
> > > disclosure?
> > >
> > > Better yet disclose your relationship with the executive committee of our BoD.
> > > Is there a stipend that the GA could use associated with such services. While
> > > Roberts tells us that ICANN cannot support a GA or an AL tell us how much they
> > > afford on your services. And you are a member of two Constituencies?
> > >
> > > Come clean or drop your comments Mr. lonely bird. I used to think that what you
> > > do is your business but now I see that you take money that could allow
> > > individual users a voice on the Internet. I hope you sleep well.
> > >
> > > Quite Sincerely,
> > > Eric
> > >
> > > Kent Crispin wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Wed, Oct 24, 2001 at 09:34:38PM -0400, DannyYounger@cs.com wrote:
> > > > > Jefsey, you indicated that Songbird recently became a member of the
> > > > > business constituency. The Songbird website
> > > > > http://songbird.com/songbird/index.html seems to indicate that the
> > > > > company is primarily an ISP.
> > > >
> > > > ISP's, by the definition used in the ISP and BC constituency,
> > > > fundamentally provide internet connectivity to end users. Songbird does
> > > > not provide internet connectivity to anyone. Instead, Songbird's
> > > > services are limited to website hosting, design, development, and
> > > > consulting. Entities that provide these services are sometimes loosely
> > > > referred to as ISPs, because the term "ISP" is used differently by
> > > > different people. But as it is used in ICANN, Songbird is not an ISP.
> > > > (There is another term common in the business, "Internet Presence
> > > > Provider").
> > > >
> > > > > How then can it be a full member of the BC
> > > > > instead of merely an admitted observer?
> > > >
> > > > You could have figured this out yourself, but of course that would not
> > > > serve your purpose.
> > > >
> > > > > BC Charter: "Legally recognized for-profit business enterprises that have
> > > > > been in business for less than one year and companies whose predominant
> > > > > business is to be a registry, a registrar or an ISP cannot have full
> > > > > membership status, but may become observers."
> > > > >
> > > > > I seems that Kent has developed the knack of being in a number of
> > > > > constituencies simultaneously while the rest of us remain unrepresented.
> > > > > Interesting.
> > > >
> > > > Yes, it is interesting. It proves that the claims that you and others
> > > > make about being unrepresented are simply bogus noise. Anyone who
> > > > seriously wants to participate can do so.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Kent Crispin "Be good, and you will be
> > > > kent@songbird.com lonesome." -- Mark Twain
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