Re: [ga] RE: DNSO Constituency Structure

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>]

Chuck and all assembly members,

  Good point here Chuck.  It would seem logical that the DNSO GA
would be the place for cross cross-SO collaboration presently.
Agreed the DNSO GA is predominantly for the DNSO only
in name.  But why not use it also for other SO's in the function
of cross-SO collaboration?

Gomes, Chuck wrote:

> Patrick,
>
> I looks to me like we are in fairly close agreement.  I also believe that
> separating the suppliers from the users is a useful idea.  I understand, as
> Roland points out in a separate post, that there is no perfect way to
> separate producers from users.  But I believe that one of the complications
> in the current DNSO model that makes it very difficult for the consensus
> process to work is the fact that users and producers are in the same SO.  At
> the same time, I fully recognize that in any structure, both the users and
> the producers as well as other stakeholders must all work together to
> determine if consensus exists.  Therefore, if users and producers are
> separated into separate SO's, it would be essential to build a structure to
> facilitate cross-SO collaboration.
>
> Chuck
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Patrick Corliss [mailto:patrick@quad.net.au]
> > Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2001 9:59 AM
> > To: Gomes, Chuck
> > Cc: [ga]
> > Subject: Re: DNSO Constituency Structure
> >
> >
> > On Thu, 22 Nov 2001 09:04:49 -0500, Gomes, Chuck wrote:
> >
> > > I don't find any problem with your analysis.  In a purely
> > dichotomous
> > > situation (which I recognize does not exist) I would put the
> > > constituencies you classify as NEITHER on the demand side; in other
> > > words, if there was simply a choice between supply and demand, I
> > > personally think they are more on the demand side.
> >
> > I'm sure you will agree with me that many ISPs are sellers of
> > domain names.
> > Perhaps William X. Walsh would advise the situation with the OpenSRS
> > resellers?  Are they mostly ISPs or do they perform other services?
> >
> > Of course, ISPs may be seen as buying domain names which they
> > then onsell to
> > their customers.  However, my concept is that a reseller of
> > domain names (a
> > la OpenSRS) is really a baby registrar waiting to grow up.
> > In some cases
> > they might even apply to auDA for full accreditation as a registrar.
> >
> > Except, perhaps, when they want a lower price for domain names !!
> >
> > I believe OpenSRS calls them Registration Service Providers (RSPs).
> > Cetainly they are very supportive of their relationship with
> > the parent
> > Registrar.  In fact, I cannot imagine them in any sort of opposition.
> >
> > However, there is a distinction.  ISPs are more properly considered as
> > "infrastructure".  In other words their "core business" is not selling
> > domain names.  So their presence in the DNSO is really an
> > anomaly.  Perhaps
> > all the infrastructure people should be considered quite separately.
> >
> > Which is why I classified them as "NEITHER".
> >
> > > In the case of the ccTLDs, I recognize that in many
> > > cases they have some special obligations on the demand side
> > but it is also
> > > true with regard to some ccTLDs that they are almost
> > totally on the supply
> > > side and are even for profit organizations.
> >
> > I've written separately about ccTLDs.
> >
> > > My primary point of course was to note that the NC is not
> > dominated by
> > > those on the supply side and in fact may be
> > underrepresented when one
> > > considers the amount of impact on registries and registrars
> > (including
> > ccTLDs).
> >
> > I understand.  Perhaps you are right.  My argument was more
> > that a clearer
> > division between supply and demand would provide better focus for the
> > Names Council.  It also clarifies the position of newnet.
> >
> > The NC could more easily try to balance the opposing
> > viewpoints.  If they
> > agreed with each other, you could claim some form of consensus.
> >
> > Best regards
> > Patrick Corliss
> >
> >
> >
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