Re: [ga] WLS referred to the DNSO; WLS & competition

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>]

Sotiris and all assembly members,

  Thank you for taking the time and effort to outline one of hundreds
of these sorts of abuses that WLS can introduce, and will not doubt do
so if implemented without proper oversight.  Such oversight as we have already
had demonstrated or should I say not demonstrated by the ICANN staff
will of course not be forthcoming.

Sotiris Sotiropoulos wrote:

> Here's an interesting example of the abuse which Verisign (and others)
> will be able to practice if the WLS is implemented:
>
> I wish to register the doma
>
> Domain Name: DIGITALBOOKS.COM
> Administrative Contact, Technical Contact
> Dickson, Chris  (CD6751 <http://www.netsol.com/cgi-bin/whois/whois?%21CD6751&id=0>)  austin@CDICKSON.NET
> Individual
> 14924 Jacks Pond Road
> Austin, TX 78728
> 512.244.3348 (FAX) 512.244.3358
>
> Billing Contact:
> Slaughter, Kristen  (KSS203 <http://www.netsol.com/cgi-bin/whois/whois?%21KSS203&id=0>)  kristen@IBOOKS.COM
> ibooks.com, Inc.
> 804-C Rio Grande St.
> Austin , TX 78701
> 512-478-2700 X102 (FAX) 512-478-0500
>
> Record last updated on 22-Mar-2002.
> Record expires on 20-Jan-2002.
> Record created on 20-Jan-2000.
> Database last updated on 22-Apr-2002 09:34:00 EDT
>
> *****Expired since January 20th of this year!
>
> Of course, it is possible for me to BACK ORDER this domain through Verisign's SNAPBACK service...
>
> Now, this is evidence of a clear-cut abuse of Verisign's registrar/registry position.
>
> Perfect example why the WLS schema should not be implemented.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Sotiris Sotiropoulos
>
> in  name
>
> DIGITALBOOKS.COM
>
> But, I am unable to do so through my registrar of choice despite the fact that the domain is expired:
>
> inThomas Roessler wrote:
>
> > According to
> > <http://www.icann.org/minutes/prelim-report-22apr02.htm>, the WLS
> > proposal has been referred to the DNSO for comment.
> >
> > I'd suggest that the GA tries to dig out those arguments which are
> > actually reliable, and compiles an "official" position, this time.
> >
> >
> > Here's one possible argument which hasn't come up, yet, I think.
> > Maybe my thinking is flawed - if so, please point it out.
> > Consider any registrar who has hoarded expired domain names.  Such a
> > registrar could wait for WLS subscriptions being made through it.
> > Once a WLS subscription for a hoarded domain name is there, the
> > domain could be relased - and immediately re-registered through the
> > same registrar, due to the WLS subscription.  If a WLS subscription is
> > made through a different registrar, nothing happens.
> >
> > Rumor of this could be expected to quickly spread in the community:
> > If you want to back-order a domain name which has expired, but is  not
> > available, go to the old registrar for your WLS subscription.
> >
> >
> > Ultimately, this approach to selling off hoarded domain names (which
> > would be economically quite attractive at least to Verisign, and - at
> > sufficiently high WLS prices - possibly also for other  registrars)
> > could lead to a _significant_ increase in the cost for  registering an
> > expired domain.  It would also skew competition  between registrars as
> > far as registrations of these domains are  concerned - effectively,
> > potential registrants would be forced to go to the "old" registrar.
> >
> >
> > The conclusion from this scenario is to hold up WLS until the
> > hoarding problem has been solved.
> >
>
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