Re: Truths (Re: [ga] Lies, damned lies, and votes.)

["todd glassey" <todd.glassey@worldnet.att.net>]

I guess the question is "where do we go from here"...

Todd

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff Williams" <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>
To: "todd glassey" <todd.glassey@worldnet.att.net>
Cc: "gen full" <ga-full@dnso.org>
Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2002 5:29 PM
Subject: Re: Truths (Re: [ga] Lies, damned lies, and votes.)


> Todd and all assembly members,
>
>   Great!  Glad you do suppport what I stated below.
>
> todd glassey wrote:
>
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jeff Williams" <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>
> > To: "todd glassey" <todd.glassey@worldnet.att.net>
> > Cc: "gen full" <ga-full@dnso.org>
> > Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2002 1:35 PM
> > Subject: Re: Truths (Re: [ga] Lies, damned lies, and votes.)
> >
> > > Todd and all assembly members,
> > >
> > > todd glassey wrote:
> > >
> > > > The motion process was flawed though and neither one should have
been
> > > > advanced. They are mutually exclusive of each other so any positive
vote
> > for
> > > > one extinguishes the other.
> > >
> > >   I disagree in part here.  Both motions in many ways complimented
each
> > other
> > > to one degree of another.  How there were presented for a vote by the
> > > GA members was certainly questionable and confusing purposefully
> > > IMHO however...
> > >
> > > > That is why this voting process is flawed,
> > > > because the boilerplate and process of the election did not stop to
> > mutually
> > > > exclusive motions from passing and thus causing a dilemma, I move to
> > declare
> > > > this vote null and void and  further move to suspend all future
votes in
> > > > which this situation is allowed to occur.
> > >
> > >   No the voting process is not fatally flawed.  It does need some
> > > fine tuning.  But any motions that are put forth should be made
> > > available for a vote if at least 2 members second such motions.
> > > Thomas required 10 seconds, which of course was silly.
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Personally I think this means that the voting regulations and
process
> > need
> > > > to be changed, and to that end I would move the GA to commission a
> > Election
> > > > Process and Rules WG immediately to resolve this dilemma, so we can
get
> > on
> > > > with the democratic management of the DNSO.
> > >
> > >   A WG would be a good idea to FINE TUNE ONLY the voting
> > > rules, yes...
> >
> > OK that works with me. I support that.
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Todd
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Roberto Gaetano" <ploki_xyz@hotmail.com>
> > > > To: <marc@fuchsia.bijt.net>; <roessler@does-not-exist.org>
> > > > Cc: <ga@dnso.org>
> > > > Sent: Friday, May 24, 2002 8:29 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: Truths (Re: [ga] Lies, damned lies, and votes.)
> > > >
> > > > > Marc Schneiders wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >There are truths that are not merely mathematical. There are lies
> > that
> > > > > >are.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > There are some facts (whether they are matematical or not, I don't
> > know,
> > > > but
> > > > > AFAIK they are truths):
> > > > >
> > > > > a. both motions passed
> > > > >
> > > > > b. motion #2 gathered wider consensus than motion #1.
> > > > >
> > > > > Political interpretation of the value of these facts varies with
the
> > > > opinion
> > > > > of the beholder, but whatever attempt to deny (or hide) the facts
is
> > > > insult
> > > > > to the GA.
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards
> > > > > Roberto
> > > > >
> > > > >
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