Re: [ga] Grace and Redemption

[Marc Schneiders <marc@fuchsia.bijt.net>]

The solution is to change the type of verification, or if that is not
possible, to transfer to another registrar. OpenSRS/Tucows, Enom (and
others, I am sure) let one change details over a webinterface. One must
not forget the password then, of course...

On Sun, 30 Jun 2002, at 06:06 [=GMT-0400], Ken Stubbs wrote:

> maybe instead of just talking about the issues , someone should suggest a practical solution to the potential propblem being discussed here..
>
> ken stubbs
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: L. Gallegos
>   To: ga@dnso.org
>   Sent: Friday, June 28, 2002 4:56 PM
>   Subject: Re: [ga] Grace and Redemption
>
>
>   My point is that the registrant has to use the email address to contact
>   the system in order to verify the transaction (email verification).  Many
>   registrants use their domain for email and some even just for email, so
>   that they do not have to continually change email addresses if they
>   change ISPs, etc.  So, going to a neighbor to use his email addy is not
>   going to do anything.  It won't compute.  That has been one of the
>   bugaboos when people do change email addresses due to ISP
>   changes, especially when it is due to an ISP failure or other emergency
>   change.  Suddenly one can't do anything about modifying domain
>   information and it all has to be done by phone.  With Verisign it is
>   extremely painful to do anything via phone or fax.  Other registrars do
>   not even make their phone numbers public - or at least easy to find.
>
>   It is an issue whether some feel otherwise or not.
>
>   The telephone or electric bill analogy is not a good one, IMO, since
>   most people would be able to deal with that simply - by using another
>   phone.  Verification of an email address is not necessary, nor is
>   verification of the number from which you are calling.
>
>   Leah
>
>
>   On 28 Jun 2002, at 13:54, Dan Steinberg wrote:
>
>   > I have to agree. If your phone gets disconnected, it doesnt matter if
>   > its because you 'thought you had paid' but hadnt or if its turly telco
>   > error or lost cheque.  You still have to go visit a neighbour, or use a
>   > cell phone or trundle down to find a pay phone just to establish what
>   > the problem is and see if you have to do something (like pay). It's your
>   > repsonisibility to find a way to do this.
>   >
>   > William X Walsh wrote:
>   > >
>   > > Friday, June 28, 2002, 1:31:08 AM, L. Gallegos wrote:
>   > >
>   > > > Well, the board approved it, but I still have a question that no one
>   > > > seems to have addressed.
>   > >
>   > > > If an expired domain is placed on registry hold and no longer resolves,
>   > > > and the contact email is based on that domain, how will the registrant
>   > > > be able to "undelete" it or move it to another registrar to redeem it if
>   > > > there can be no contact?
>   > >
>   > > > It seems to me that there should be some resolution to this question or
>   > > > what good is the Grace and Redemption perioid?  The only other means
>   > > > to communicate in this scenario, would be by telephone.  Some of the
>   > > > registrars do not even list their phone numbers on their websites and
>   > > > there would be little time to handle it via snail mail.
>   > >
>   > > > Anyone have any comments?
>   > >
>   > > Personal Responsibility.
>   > >
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>   > > William X Walsh <william@wxsoft.info>
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