Re[2]: [ga] Reform in the GA?

["William X. Walsh" <william@userfriendly.com>]

Hello Kent,

Tuesday, February 06, 2001, 10:09:15 PM, Kent Crispin wrote:

> On Tue, Feb 06, 2001 at 05:12:20PM -0800, William X. Walsh wrote:
>> Hello.
>> 
>> I am writing as a member of this GA, and as a member of an
>> organization whose leader is now claiming that one thing that
>> organization has accomplished is a "turning of the GA of the DNSO
>> around."

> I remember a day not long past when Joe Baptista was making up obscene 
> limricks and posting them to the list.  Relative to that, the GA has 
> indeed been "turned around".

I doubt Joop Teernstra (who opposed the rules that eliminated the
Baptista problem) was taking credit for that.

>> I find it odd that anyone who is a member of this assembly can think
>> that this assembly has been turned around in a positive fashion, when
>> in fact this GA assembly has not been able to accomplish anything as a
>> cohesive body.

> That is not its function.  It was explicitly never intended to be a 
> decision making body.  There are some who think that is what it should 
> be, but that is not what it is.

It was that kind of reform that was implied had occurred, and was a
result of positive influence from the IDNO.

>> It can't even initiate elections to replace a GA Chair
>> whose office long ago expired.  It has been unable to even agree on a
>> set of principles to put forward for giving itself a real role in the
>> organization.

> It has a role; it's just not the role you want it to have.

What is that role, Kent?    I agree it doesn't have the role I think
it should have, I also don't think it currently serves in any serious
role at all, except window dressing for the illusion of "bottom up"
consensus.

That said, what, if any, reform do you credit the IDNO for bringing
about the GA?  That's what I'm trying to nail down here, I don't see
any reform at all, except for the elimination of a member who was
being obnoxiously obscene, and that was opposed by the IDNO's founder.

-- 
Best regards,
 William                            mailto:william@userfriendly.com


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