Re: [ga] Reliability of the Internet - the silent battle - part 2

[Eric Dierker <eric@hi-tek.com>]

Jeff,

Thank you for your temperate comments in response to my inflammatory response.

http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,2823645,00.html

This came from that great service gigalaw this morning.

Security is a funny word, it is chameleon, it changes color quicker than a tree toad.
To me security is my dotINFO resolving, Privacy and the knowledge that I am
so mean I can walk Venice Beach at night.  To you it is anti-viral.

So we just should agree to disagree and carry on. I forwarded two of the threads posts to
a few of our clients, they basically all responded the same; "you guys are dealing with
this right?  Good, now stop sending me that crap!"

The GA is not a technical advisory body of any sort, and it is dangerous to suggest this
is where someone should get that type of information.  Very Dangerous ;-1 especially if
your anti-terrorist claim is right.

anonymoooous

Jeff Williams wrote:

> Eric and all assembly members,
>
>   Nice try Eric my ignorant friend, but no cigar.  You comments
> not only are not reasonable but miss the mark entirely. They (Your remarks)
> kinda remind me of Nevel Chamberlin just after he arrived back
> in england after chatting with Hitler.  Thank god Churchill replaced
> him in short order, eh?  >;)  But to some I suppose ignorance is
> bliss, until they get bitten, that's when the screaming usually starts.
>
>   So What Roeland, myself and a couple of others are discussing
> on this proper forum has great relevance and has been helpful to
> some, including myself, so as to be better prepared just in case
> al Queada decides to devise a virus along the same lines specifically
> to attack Root Servers, Name Servers, and/or Registry/Registrar
> Databases.
>
> Eric Dierker wrote:
>
> > Sorry big Guy but your opinion is skewed.  Take your techno talk else where and read
> > what this list is for.
> > This ignorance is what has totally incapacitated  the GA.
> >
> > OTOH wow are all these guys smart, between them they cannot agree on one single
> > virus, it's origin or how to prevent it.  Sorry Jeff but three or four guys arguing
> > about where a virus came from and the best way to prevent it's spread is a list
> > killer, the virus became human.  And you are becoming typhoid Mary.
> >
> > Peace
> > Eric
> >
> > Jeff Williams wrote:
> >
> > > Eric and all assembly members,
> > >
> > >   Perhaps you haven't been paying close attention Eric.  So let us
> > > do a little review in conjunction with interspersed responses to
> > > your commentary.  (See more below)
> > >
> > > Eric Dierker wrote:
> > >
> > > > Could someone relate why this is relevant to this list.
> > >
> > >   Yes.  So more below
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > DOMAIN NAME SUPPORT ORGANIZATION
> > > >
> > > > Look at the charters and at the NC papers and the GA formation docs.
> > > >
> > > > We are here to deal with issues of domain names.
> > >
> > >   Indeed we do.  But also the DNS in general as well.  As such
> > > virus concerns with posts to this forum are VERY relevant to
> > > it's participants as well as viruses that effect the DNS and Root server
> > > structure(s).
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > We are not here to talk about how each one of you is better at virus
> > > > protection than the other.
> > >
> > >   If in doing so provides additional information regarding name server,
> > > root server, and overall DNS security specific to viruses we need
> > > and should be discussing it.  If you do not understand the lingo, than
> > > perhaps you need to bone up.
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Do any of you have a dotBIZ or a dotINFO or dotUS that resolves correctly and
> > > > is not misleading servers?
> > >
> > >   Many of us do of course.  But some viruses can effect and has effected
> > > the resolution of those domain names.
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > UDRP that is DNSO - GA related.
> > > >
> > > > How we are represented for DNSO purposes is related.
> > > >
> > > > Your technical analysis of how each of you can better deal and phrase virus
> > > > problems is not related.
> > >
> > >   Untrue.  It is quite importantly related to DNS and Domain Name
> > > issues.  In fact it is an issue in and of itself.
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > If you pull a "it's the security of the net gig" forget about it.
> > >
> > >   Forget about what?  Please try to be more specific Eric.
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Anyone can go and watch participation on this list and see when technical
> > > > chatter like this comes up it hurts particpation, as opposed to flame wars on
> > > > personality helping participation.
> > >
> > >   I haven't noticed it.  In fact the contrary seems to be more accurate.
> > >
> > > >  Certainly there is a middle ground and this
> > > > is not it.
> > >
> > >   Perhaps and than again perhaps not.  If you have issues that you feel are
> > > more interesting ot others of this forum, please initiate a thread/topic/subject
> > > line for them.
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Eric
> > > >
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> > > Regards,
> > > --
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>
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