Re: [registrars] Who "affordable-domains.com" is.

[John Nagle <nagle@animats.com>]

     I realize that "easy-internic.com" is not one of
your domain resellers.  But you do host them, or directly
provide connectivity for them.  So presumably you know
who is behind them.  Would you care to provide the
legal business name and address of the proprietors
of "easy-internic.com"?  That name is not a valid
California corporation name.

				John Nagle
				Downside.com

Ivan Vachovsky wrote:

> Aplus.Net certifies hereby that Aplus.Net has nothing to do with any of the
> aforementioned operations and schemes.
> 
> Aplus.Net is a difersified Service Provider and offers among other things
> dedicated servers, virtual private servers and co-location services. Any one
> of these can potentialy be a host of such operations.
> 
> Aplus.Net is ICANN accredited Registrar. It registers domain names under the
> Names4Ever brand and does not have any other brands or web sites dedicated
> to domain names registration. We have hundreds of Resellers trough our
> Reseller programm. I checked about this particular reseller and they do not
> appear to be resellers of Aplus.Net.
> 
> Aplus.Net has raised many times the issue of watchdog organization within
> ICANN, at ICANN meetings and at this forum. Unfortunately ICANN opted to
> mushroom many other bodies, but not this one. With this being the case, we
> have to resort to courts to resolve this and similar issues. Aplus.Net will
> fully cooperate in such proceedings.
> 
> Ivan Vachovsky,
> CEO Aplus.Net
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Nagle" <nagle@downside.com>
> Cc: <registrars@dnso.org>; <ivan@abac.com>
> Sent: Sunday, September 01, 2002 10:42 AM
> Subject: Re: [registrars] Who "affordable-domains.com" is.
> 
> 
> 
>>   It gets wierder.  See
>>
>>http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/registrars/Arc01/msg02287.html
>>
>>in which Ivan Vachovsky, the CEO of Aplus.Net, complains
>>about the "affordable-domains" spam overloading his systems.
>>
>>It turns out that his company hosts the thing.
>>
>>"affordable-domains.com" is on a server in China, but
>>their "mother site", as their FAQ (at
>>"http://www.affordable-domains.com/faq.html") says, is
>>"easy-internic.com".  The forms on the "affordable-domains.com"
>>actually submit to the IP address of "easy-internic.com".
>>And both sites have much the same content, except for slightly
>>different graphics.  The FAQs match word for word.
>>
>>Who hosts "easy-internic.com"?   Here's a traceroute:
>>
>>  Tracing route to easy-internic.com [66.175.45.95]
>>  over a maximum of 30 hops:
>>   ...
>>   15    abac-gw.customer.alter.net [157.130.240.102]
>>   16    core01.san-diego.abac.net [216.55.138.242]
>>   17    easy-internic.com [66.175.45.95]
>>
>>So ABAC hosts "easy-internic.com".  ABAC is in
>>San Diego, California, and does business as
>>"aplus.net".
>>
>>Now the question is whether ABAC is unwittingly
>>hosting "easy-internic.com", or whether they're an
>>active participant in this operation.
>>
>>It's worth noting that "easy-internic.com" asks
>>for a credit card number without disclosing their
>>business name and address first, as required by
>>California law.  That's a criminal offense in
>>California; you can't run an anonymous business,
>>and there are specific Internet disclosure requirements.
>>Since they're hosted in California, California
>>law applies, even though they do give a mailing
>>address which is a Mail Boxes Etc. in Salt Lake
>>City, UT.
>>
>>John Nagle
>>Downside.com
>>
>>
>>
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