Re: [registrars] Who "affordable-domains.com" is.

["Ivan Vachovsky" <ivan@aplus.net>]

No, because of privacy issues guaranteed by our Service Agreement.

I.V.

----- Original Message -----
From: "John Nagle" <nagle@animats.com>
To: "Ivan Vachovsky" <ivan@aplus.net>
Cc: "John Nagle" <nagle@downside.com>; <registrars@dnso.org>;
<ivan@abac.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 01, 2002 10:20 PM
Subject: Re: [registrars] Who "affordable-domains.com" is.


>      I realize that "easy-internic.com" is not one of
> your domain resellers.  But you do host them, or directly
> provide connectivity for them.  So presumably you know
> who is behind them.  Would you care to provide the
> legal business name and address of the proprietors
> of "easy-internic.com"?  That name is not a valid
> California corporation name.
>
> John Nagle
> Downside.com
>
> Ivan Vachovsky wrote:
>
> > Aplus.Net certifies hereby that Aplus.Net has nothing to do with any of
the
> > aforementioned operations and schemes.
> >
> > Aplus.Net is a difersified Service Provider and offers among other
things
> > dedicated servers, virtual private servers and co-location services. Any
one
> > of these can potentialy be a host of such operations.
> >
> > Aplus.Net is ICANN accredited Registrar. It registers domain names under
the
> > Names4Ever brand and does not have any other brands or web sites
dedicated
> > to domain names registration. We have hundreds of Resellers trough our
> > Reseller programm. I checked about this particular reseller and they do
not
> > appear to be resellers of Aplus.Net.
> >
> > Aplus.Net has raised many times the issue of watchdog organization
within
> > ICANN, at ICANN meetings and at this forum. Unfortunately ICANN opted to
> > mushroom many other bodies, but not this one. With this being the case,
we
> > have to resort to courts to resolve this and similar issues. Aplus.Net
will
> > fully cooperate in such proceedings.
> >
> > Ivan Vachovsky,
> > CEO Aplus.Net
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "John Nagle" <nagle@downside.com>
> > Cc: <registrars@dnso.org>; <ivan@abac.com>
> > Sent: Sunday, September 01, 2002 10:42 AM
> > Subject: Re: [registrars] Who "affordable-domains.com" is.
> >
> >
> >
> >>   It gets wierder.  See
> >>
> >>http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/registrars/Arc01/msg02287.html
> >>
> >>in which Ivan Vachovsky, the CEO of Aplus.Net, complains
> >>about the "affordable-domains" spam overloading his systems.
> >>
> >>It turns out that his company hosts the thing.
> >>
> >>"affordable-domains.com" is on a server in China, but
> >>their "mother site", as their FAQ (at
> >>"http://www.affordable-domains.com/faq.html") says, is
> >>"easy-internic.com".  The forms on the "affordable-domains.com"
> >>actually submit to the IP address of "easy-internic.com".
> >>And both sites have much the same content, except for slightly
> >>different graphics.  The FAQs match word for word.
> >>
> >>Who hosts "easy-internic.com"?   Here's a traceroute:
> >>
> >>  Tracing route to easy-internic.com [66.175.45.95]
> >>  over a maximum of 30 hops:
> >>   ...
> >>   15    abac-gw.customer.alter.net [157.130.240.102]
> >>   16    core01.san-diego.abac.net [216.55.138.242]
> >>   17    easy-internic.com [66.175.45.95]
> >>
> >>So ABAC hosts "easy-internic.com".  ABAC is in
> >>San Diego, California, and does business as
> >>"aplus.net".
> >>
> >>Now the question is whether ABAC is unwittingly
> >>hosting "easy-internic.com", or whether they're an
> >>active participant in this operation.
> >>
> >>It's worth noting that "easy-internic.com" asks
> >>for a credit card number without disclosing their
> >>business name and address first, as required by
> >>California law.  That's a criminal offense in
> >>California; you can't run an anonymous business,
> >>and there are specific Internet disclosure requirements.
> >>Since they're hosted in California, California
> >>law applies, even though they do give a mailing
> >>address which is a Mail Boxes Etc. in Salt Lake
> >>City, UT.
> >>
> >>John Nagle
> >>Downside.com
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
>
>