[wg-c] reposted for Brian Carpenter

[Jonathan Weinberg <weinberg@mail.msen.com>]

	I just got this from Brian Carpenter, and I'm reposting it, but I really
would like this to be the last message posted in this set of threads.  As
Dave, Karl, Harald and Harold explained, we've mined this topic of all its
relevance to WG-C.

Jon


>Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 09:28:12 -0600
>From: Brian E Carpenter <brian@hursley.ibm.com>
>Organization: IBM
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>To: Harald Tveit Alvestrand <Harald@Alvestrand.no>
>CC: Jonathan Weinberg <weinberg@mail.msen.com>, wg-c@dnso.org
>Subject: Re: [wg-c] reposted for Tony Rutkowski
>
>By the way, Fred Baker is a voting member of the IAB, not an ex officio
member.
>
>It is not necessary to state that when the IAB chair sends a text
>stating an IAB position, that position is the consensus of the IAB.
>
>As for the collective thought process, it took about 5 seconds (that's
>a serious estimate). We did spend some days wordsmithing the text, but the
>basic facts are hardly ones that the IAB needed to spend any time debating.
>You can't vote on facts.
>
>   Brian
>
>Harald Tveit Alvestrand wrote:
>> 
>> At 22:43 20.12.99 -0400, Jonathan Weinberg wrote:
>> > >Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 11:53:22 -0500
>> > >To: bwg-n-friends@jetty.net, Karl Auerbach <karl@cavebear.com>
>> > >From: "A.M. Rutkowski" <amr@chaos.com>
>> > >Subject: Re: [bwg+] IAB comment
>> > >Cc: wg-c@dnso.org
>> 
>> .............
>> 
>> > >It would also be useful to foster a more open process.
>> > >
>> > >The only information available is the following:
>> > >
>> > >1. MINUTES FOR SEPTEMBER 14, 1999 IAB TELECONFERENCE
>> > >    ...
>> > >    NEW ACTION ITEMS: * Brian Carpenter: Statement on
>> > >    need for unique DNS root to ICANN.
>> > >
>> > >2. MINUTES FOR OCTOBER 19, 1999 IAB TELECONFERENCE
>> > >    ...
>> > >    OLD ACTION ITEMS:
>> > >    * Brian Carpenter: Statement on need for unique
>> > >    DNS root to ICANN. = Done.
>> > >
>> > >In an ideal world, it would be desirable to see some
>> > >record of a collective thought process.
>> 
>> In an ideal world, a lot of things would be different.
>> 
>> > >Minimally, it would be useful to see some record
>> > >that the statement was actually adopted by the IAB, and
>> > >whether the views expressed in the statement represent
>> > >those of all the IAB members - all speaking in one voice
>> > >without divergence:
>> > >
>> > >Harald Alvestrand
>> > >Ran Atkinson
>> > >Rob Austein
>> > >Brian Carpenter
>> > >Steve Bellovin
>> > >Jon Crowcroft
>> > >Steve Deering
>> > >Ned Freed
>> > >Tony Hain
>> > >Tim Howes
>> > >Geoff Huston
>> > >John Klensin
>> > >
>> > >EX OFFICIO
>> > >Fred Baker
>> > >Keith Moore
>> > >Joyce K. Reynolds
>> > >Abel Weinrib
>> > >Erik Huizer
>> > >
>> 
>> Request for changing "done" to "approved by the IAB and sent" as a
>> boilerplate text in minutes noted.
>> 
>> We did and do stand behind the statement as written.
>> 
>>                       Harald
>> 
>> [nit: ex officio members don't vote. So it's not formally correct to ask
>> for them to add their voice to the regular members of the IAB, if the
>> question is one of formal support. But only supportive noises were heard
>> from that direction too.]
>> --
>> Harald Tveit Alvestrand, EDB Maxware, Norway
>> Harald.Alvestrand@edb.maxware.no
>
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