Re: [ga] Reliability of the Internet - the silent battle - part 2

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>]

Eric and all assembly members,

Eric Dierker wrote:

> Jeff,
>
> Thank you for your temperate comments in response to my inflammatory response.
>
> http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,2823645,00.html

  This came from that great service gigalaw this morning.

  Yes it is long on verbiage and short of facts.

>
> Security is a funny word, it is chameleon, it changes color quicker than a tree toad.
> To me security is my dotINFO resolving, Privacy and the knowledge that I am
> so mean I can walk Venice Beach at night.  To you it is anti-viral.

  No it is not anti viral to me.  You are juxtaposing terms and possibly thought
processes in the process here.

>
>
> So we just should agree to disagree and carry on. I forwarded two of the threads posts to
> a few of our clients, they basically all responded the same; "you guys are dealing with
> this right?  Good, now stop sending me that crap!"

  No one is sending it to you.  We are sending it to the DNSO GA
Forum.  If you do not wish to receive it, than build a specific E-Mail
filter or unsubsubscribe from this forum.  Your choice.

>
>
> The GA is not a technical advisory body of any sort, and it is dangerous to suggest this
> is where someone should get that type of information.

  Incorrect.  The DNSO GA is an assembly of Domain Name holders or interested
parties/stakeholders that have an interest in DNS issues.  Those issues include
to a great degree, very technical issues and technical aspects of the operation
of the DNS in all of its parts.  These included security related technical
related issues as well, amongst others.  So, bone up, move on, or
build a specific filter to filter out what you are not interested in.  If you
don't know how to build such a filter, there are many here that can and will
help you do so.

  This forum is also an excellent place to get "That Type of Information"
as you put it, as well.  Terrorists that know they are being scrutinized
are much more reluctant to engage in their terror or illegal activities.
Knowledge is power, and to be vigilant it our duty.  I shall not
disregard my duty.  Perhaps you shall?

>  Very Dangerous ;-1 especially if
> your anti-terrorist claim is right.

  Nonsense.

>
>
> anonymoooous
>
> Jeff Williams wrote:
>
> > Eric and all assembly members,
> >
> >   Nice try Eric my ignorant friend, but no cigar.  You comments
> > not only are not reasonable but miss the mark entirely. They (Your remarks)
> > kinda remind me of Nevel Chamberlin just after he arrived back
> > in england after chatting with Hitler.  Thank god Churchill replaced
> > him in short order, eh?  >;)  But to some I suppose ignorance is
> > bliss, until they get bitten, that's when the screaming usually starts.
> >
> >   So What Roeland, myself and a couple of others are discussing
> > on this proper forum has great relevance and has been helpful to
> > some, including myself, so as to be better prepared just in case
> > al Queada decides to devise a virus along the same lines specifically
> > to attack Root Servers, Name Servers, and/or Registry/Registrar
> > Databases.
> >
> > Eric Dierker wrote:
> >
> > > Sorry big Guy but your opinion is skewed.  Take your techno talk else where and read
> > > what this list is for.
> > > This ignorance is what has totally incapacitated  the GA.
> > >
> > > OTOH wow are all these guys smart, between them they cannot agree on one single
> > > virus, it's origin or how to prevent it.  Sorry Jeff but three or four guys arguing
> > > about where a virus came from and the best way to prevent it's spread is a list
> > > killer, the virus became human.  And you are becoming typhoid Mary.
> > >
> > > Peace
> > > Eric
> > >
> > > Jeff Williams wrote:
> > >
> > > > Eric and all assembly members,
> > > >
> > > >   Perhaps you haven't been paying close attention Eric.  So let us
> > > > do a little review in conjunction with interspersed responses to
> > > > your commentary.  (See more below)
> > > >
> > > > Eric Dierker wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Could someone relate why this is relevant to this list.
> > > >
> > > >   Yes.  So more below
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > DOMAIN NAME SUPPORT ORGANIZATION
> > > > >
> > > > > Look at the charters and at the NC papers and the GA formation docs.
> > > > >
> > > > > We are here to deal with issues of domain names.
> > > >
> > > >   Indeed we do.  But also the DNS in general as well.  As such
> > > > virus concerns with posts to this forum are VERY relevant to
> > > > it's participants as well as viruses that effect the DNS and Root server
> > > > structure(s).
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > We are not here to talk about how each one of you is better at virus
> > > > > protection than the other.
> > > >
> > > >   If in doing so provides additional information regarding name server,
> > > > root server, and overall DNS security specific to viruses we need
> > > > and should be discussing it.  If you do not understand the lingo, than
> > > > perhaps you need to bone up.
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Do any of you have a dotBIZ or a dotINFO or dotUS that resolves correctly and
> > > > > is not misleading servers?
> > > >
> > > >   Many of us do of course.  But some viruses can effect and has effected
> > > > the resolution of those domain names.
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > UDRP that is DNSO - GA related.
> > > > >
> > > > > How we are represented for DNSO purposes is related.
> > > > >
> > > > > Your technical analysis of how each of you can better deal and phrase virus
> > > > > problems is not related.
> > > >
> > > >   Untrue.  It is quite importantly related to DNS and Domain Name
> > > > issues.  In fact it is an issue in and of itself.
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > If you pull a "it's the security of the net gig" forget about it.
> > > >
> > > >   Forget about what?  Please try to be more specific Eric.
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Anyone can go and watch participation on this list and see when technical
> > > > > chatter like this comes up it hurts particpation, as opposed to flame wars on
> > > > > personality helping participation.
> > > >
> > > >   I haven't noticed it.  In fact the contrary seems to be more accurate.
> > > >
> > > > >  Certainly there is a middle ground and this
> > > > > is not it.
> > > >
> > > >   Perhaps and than again perhaps not.  If you have issues that you feel are
> > > > more interesting ot others of this forum, please initiate a thread/topic/subject
> > > > line for them.
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Eric
> > > > >
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> > > > Regards,
> > > > --
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Regards,

--
Jeffrey A. Williams
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CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng/SR. Java/CORBA Development Eng.
Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC.
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