ICANN MdR meeting - Good process than comes good substance to: [ga] icannworld.org

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>]

Eric and all assembly members,

Eric Dierker wrote:

> I was quite pleased to meet and speak with Mr. Thorton after his presentation
> and Q&A period.  The guy uses a little too much dramatic pause but otherwise the
> presentation according to agenda that I witnessed was very good.

  Didn't sound like many others thought so from what we are seeing.
Perhaps you are in the minority?

>
>
> Boyo boyo this stuff sounds like a jealous spouse.

  Doesn't to me.  SOund more like process and the agenda were not
followed.  As a result many wasted their precious time preparing
for a presentation which Danny lobbied here for and were unable
or not allowed to present them.

>
>
> Let us center on substantive issues rather than personal grievances with gross
> history and procedural tit for tat.

  Let us also be sure that a good and fair process in followed and in place
that can allow for good subtantive issues can be heard, addressed and
taken care of adequately.

>
>
> Sincerely,
> Eric
>
> Patrick Corliss wrote:
>
> > Hi Joop
> >
> > > While I am very disappointed about what happended yesterday at the GA
> > > meeting, with the published agenda suddenly disregarded  and 2 items not
> > > addressed,  I will not help playing the game of attacking a Chair before
> > > there is another elected one willing to take over that thankless job.
> >
> > Sorry, Joop, the TLDA members have raised as an issue that Bradley
> > Thornton's presentation was cut out from the agenda without notice.  If
> > true, I would argue
> > that is iniquitous.  I have no knowledge of the reason for it being cut.
> >
> > You should be aware that Danny lost my support some time ago.
> >
> > As far as Danny following proper process I would also remind you of the
> > following:
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Patrick Corliss <patrick@quad.net.au>
> > To: Danny Younger <webmaster@babybows.com>
> > Cc: [ga] <ga@dnso.org>; <DannyYounger@cs.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2001 6:52 PM
> > Subject: Re: [ga] Motion Accepted
> >
> > Hi Danny
> >
> > Perhaps I should have read your wishy washy, doublespeak wording more
> > carefully.  You wrote:
> >
> > > > At some point our Secretariat will advise when it is ready to once more
> > > > support the activities of the General Assembly.  Perhaps we might be
> > > > able to conclude a vote on this motion by early October (according to
> > > > the most recent timetable put forth).  In the meantime, you may wish to
> > > > get a "sense of the GA" on this topic through a poll.
> >
> > The fact is that the DNSO Secretariat never had any intention of putting my
> > motion to a vote.  I doubt if you did either despite your misleading heading
> > "Motion Accepted".
> >
> > If we can't even get an internal motion to a vote of the GA, what chance do
> > we have with something that has external implicatations.
> >
> > So can we cut the crap and just write off the GA as a farce?
> >
> > Best regards
> > Patrick
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Patrick Corliss <patrick@quad.net.au>
> > To: <DannyYounger@cs.com>
> > Cc: [ga] <ga@dnso.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2001 3:25 PM
> > Subject: Re: [ga] Motion Accepted
> >
> > > On Mon, 16 Jul 2001 01:33:50 EDT, Danny Younger wrote:
> > >
> > > > I have no objection to accepting the motion that you have proposed.
> > > > At some point our Secretariat will advise when it is ready to once more
> > > > support the activities of the General Assembly.  Perhaps we might be
> > > > able to conclude a vote on this motion by early October (according to
> > > > the most recent timetable put forth).  In the meantime, you may wish to
> > > > get a "sense of the GA" on this topic through a poll.
> > >
> > > Thank you for your support and your comments.  By my count, there are
> > > 18 declared supporters for the present proposal:
> > >
> > > *    Peter de Blanc
> > > *    Roeland Meyer
> > > *    Leah Gallegos
> > > *    Jefsey Morfin
> > > *    Ken Stubbs
> > > *    William S. Lovell
> > > *    Marilyn Cade
> > > *    Ross Wm. Rader (for Tucows)
> > > *    Bradley Thornton
> > > *    Alexander Svensson
> > > *    Michael McNulty
> > > *    Joop Teernstra
> > > *    Erica Roberts
> > > *    Marc Schneiders
> > > *    Vany Martinez
> > > *    John C. Lewis
> > > *    Derek Conant (with reservations)
> > > *    Patrick Corliss (myself)
> > >
> > > I believe that we have sufficient mandate to request members to use the
> > > [ga-rules] mailing list to debate procedural or other administrative
> > > issues like websites, mailing lists, etc.
> > >
> > > > To facilitate that effort, and in response to the recommendation put
> > forth
> > > > by Bill Lovell to create our own website, I have begun building such a
> > > > site (with an area devoted to current motions).  You may visit
> > > > http://www.icannworld.org to see the results of my efforts over the
> > > > course of this weekend.
> > >
> > > I would, of course, thank both Bill Lovell and yourself, as well as Joanna
> > > Lane, for your kind efforts.
> > >
> > > One wonders why we cannot incorporate these initiatives into the current
> > > DNSO website.  I see this as an issue that needs to be discussed on the
> > > [ga-rules] mailing list.
> > >
> > > > Clicking on the General Assembly Link will take you to the page that
> > > > leads you to the Straw Poll.
> > >
> > > Thank you.  At least we start with the 18 names above (19 if we include
> > > yourself) in favour of discussing non-substantive issues on the [ga-rules]
> > > mailing list.
> > >
> > > I see that as sufficient mandate to encourage compliance with this motion.
> > >
> > > > Best regards,
> > > > Danny
> > >
> > > Best wishes
> > > Patrick Corliss
> >
> > <snip footers>
> >
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