[ga] Re: [ecdiscuss] DNS independence

[Nigel Roberts <nigel@roberts.co.uk>]

Please take this to a more appropriate list.

Thank you.

Jeff Williams wrote:

>Jefsey, John and all,
>
>Jefsey Morfin wrote:
>
>>Dear John,
>>I thank you for your response which clarifies a total misunderstanding.
>>
>>I quoted a private and very serious letter for a reason you will most
>>probably support. I did not realize that out of its context one could read
>>the line that wrong. I do apologize for this.
>>
>>At 05:56 13/04/02, John C Klensin wrote:
>>
>>>Since I have some claim on knowing the situation firsthand, let me
>>>reinforce Marilyn's point, and use clearer language.  Your description of
>>>the handoff falls somewhere on the scale between "silly" and
>>>"offensive".  It is also, independent of your or anyone else's opinions, false.
>>>
>>Obviously true: this is the whole point.
>>
>
>  Agreed here Jefsey.  Marilyn's comments previously were very
>silly and in some circles would be considered "Offensive".  But I believe
>that John was making the point that he felt your response was
>either "Silly" or "Offensive".  To me anyway this shows a huge
>discrepancy in understanding and point of view.  Not surprising
>however, which really points up your view, Jefsey and Marilyn's
>over indulgence in her comments.
>
>><snip>
>>
>>>As Marilyn says, IAB members, and _especially_ the chair, function as
>>>individual experts, independent of the strategies and policies of their
>>>companies.  When I was chair, what I brought to the IAB was whatever
>>>technical judgement I had on the subjects at hand.
>>>
>
>  Yes John you have on a number of occasions.  And you should
>be commended for doing so.  However you have also politicized
>a number of technical areas as well that need not been politicized,
>or would be unseemly to do so.
>
>>
>><snip>
>>
>>BTW, John, I want to take advantage from this misunderstanding which will
>>probably make some reading, to publish my respect to your Chairmanship. We
>>do not necessarily agree on everything, but I certainly admire the way you
>>have known to introduce innovative thinking as a Chair and I thank you for
>>that. As you know I certainly look forwards continuing keeping in touch on
>>these issues.
>>
>><snip>
>>
>>What you say about ATT and Leslie *is* the basis of the point. The point is
>>that ATT played it low key and Versign not. This is the important
>>information everyone can read and have an opinion on.
>>
>
>  Exactly right.  However nothing wrong or bad with either "Play", as
>you put it Jefsey.
>
>>
>>Everyone will fully accept that and you cannot be elected without the IAB
>>members first making sure "you/she would have the necessary resources and
>>backing to do the job" and that the company paying for that should get some
>>return. "ATT steps down" was only retained to acknowledge ATT's support and
>>style (I had to carry a Copernic search to know who you worked for).
>>
>>Now, read the Verisign PR:
>>http://corporate.verisign.com/news/2002/pr_20020402.html !
>>
>><quote>
>>VeriSign's Leslie Daigle Named Chair of the Internet Architecture Board
>>
>>Mountain View, CA, April 2, 2002--VeriSign, Inc. (NASDAQ: VRSN), the leading
>>provider of digital trust services, announced today that Leslie Daigle,
>>Director of Directory Research at VeriSign, was selected as the Internet
>>Engineering Task Force's (IETF) Chair of the Internet Architecture Board
>>(IAB).
>>
>
>  Yes, this PR statement is more of a political one than just a simple
>announcement.  A bit of grandstanding if you will...
>
>>
>></quote>
>>
>>I do not feel that this wording fits what you and me, and I suppose most,
>>agree upon about the independence of the job. I know PRs are pretty
>>standard forms, so the title makes it all.
>>
>>Jefsey Morfin
>>
>
>Regards,
>--
>Jeffrey A. Williams
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>
>


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