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Re: [ga] Consensus & Names Council Task Forces


Eric and all assembly members,

Eric Dierker wrote:

> Jeff and others,
>
> Ok.  I will accept Jeff's' position here for the sake of moving forward.
>
> I would like to work with anyone interested in implementing the following in the
> GA.
>
> 1.    Funding.
> 2.    Outreach.
> 3.    integration of the BP.

  What do you mean by the "BP"?

>
> 4.    Increased effectiveness of the GA voting mechanism.
>
> Now with the current structure of the GA where do I go to help get this done?

  Three places as I see it.  The NC, the ICANN BoD and staff, and to a lesser
extent the DNSO Secretariat.  One might ask why I say the DNSO
secretariat?  Well she controls the DNSO.ORG web site and the voting
mechanism.  Outreach and funding must have the cooperation of the
ICANN BoD and staff as well as the NC to be effective.  As we
have seen a number of times in the past and in accordance with the
ICANN Bylaws, the DNSO is under the ICANN umbrella.  In other
words it is not an entity in and of itself as it is PART of the ICANN
corp. umbrella.  The NC's cooperation is needed also as it
makes the recommendation's to the ICANN BoD.  Ergo it's
cooperation is paramount if Funding and outreach is to be
accomplished effectively for the GA.  The members are
needed once a funding mechanism is in place and actual
funds collection in approved and put into place.  At this
point real outreach can commence in earnest and other
DNSO GA activities can take place.

  For Funding:

1.) Any and all funds collected for the DNSO GA must be
      used exclusively for GA activities ONLY.  The use of those
      funds must be determined by vote of the members and than
      passed on to the NC for their review, but not their approval.
      either the GA chair or the NC chair must or should pass
      this information onto the ICANN BoD or CFO for disbursement,
      or actual use.  This is why I believe a separate account for
      The GA and really each constituency must be maintained.


>
>
> I think when we elect our chairs we should also elect a GA council that can
> actually
> get these things done by vote and consensus and the actually implement them.
>
> Sincerely,
> Eric
>
> Jeff William's wrote:
>
> > Eric and all assembly members,
> >
> > Eric Dierker wrote:
> >
> > > Jeff Williams wrote:  <major snippage>
> > >
> > > Let us take this line by line;
> > >
> > > >   This is not entirely accurate Danny.  I volunteered as did others.
> > >
> > > Of course you tried but when we move forward without official mandate
> > > whatever the hell that is we get slammed.  And yet the GA does not give
> > > mandate to anyone thereby remaining a nothingness.
> >
> >   Not exactly accurate here Eric.  The NC has the authority to do this.
> > Yet they did not.  The ICANN CEO Stuart Lynn may also mandate
> > this as well.  But again they did not do so even after being ask
> > a number of times by several GA members.  In fact the ICANN
> > Staff/Stuart Lynn did not even answer these requests at all.
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > I and they were ignored.  One can only wonder why?
> > >
> > > I will tell you why big guy,  because members of the GA do not want
> > > progress.
> >
> >   I disagree.  They want progress that is meaningful, and responsible
> > to the GA members.  The ICANN BOD and staff do not want this.
> > Hence the GA is being left to shrivel up and die.  Yet YOU seem to
> > still be here.  Why is that if you believe what you are saying here?
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > > However your point is still well taken here in that a large number of GA
> > > > members seem more interested in promoting themselves, back
> > > > biting others, or slurring others rather than getting some work done.
> > >
> > > Funny you and Chuck both like to tone it down to untruth.  This is not
> > > benign but a nasty malignant cancer.
> >
> >   Oh Name calling now are we?  How productive, eh?  :(  Not only is
> > this a mischaracterization it is a demonstration of not practicing what
> > you claim you believe in.  Why is that Eric?
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > However I have still not heard or seen anywhere what happened
> > > > to Roelands Motion passed here by the GA members?  Can you
> > > > tell us what happened to that in MdR?  I suspect it was not even
> > > > presented...
> > >
> > > Good luck but I heard him present it!
> >
> >   So why is it not documented anywhere?  Now I did here allot
> > regarding Danny's errant ICANNWORLD.ORG!!  >;)  Kinda
> > interesting how that worked out isn't it?  Seems that Danny is now
> > vying for an ICANN staff position and you are seeking an
> > ICANN BoD seat.  >;)  Nice try again Eric, no cigar!
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Sincerely,
> > > ERic
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > --
> > Jeffrey A. Williams
> > Spokesman for INEGroup - (Over 121k members/stakeholdes strong!)
> > CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng/SR. Java/CORBA Development Eng.
> > Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC.
> > E-Mail jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com
> > Contact Number:  972-244-3801 or 214-244-4827
> > Address: 5 East Kirkwood Blvd. Grapevine Texas 75208
> >
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Regards,

--
Jeffrey A. Williams
Spokesman for INEGroup - (Over 121k members/stakeholdes strong!)
CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng/SR. Java/CORBA Development Eng.
Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC.
E-Mail jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com
Contact Number:  972-244-3801 or 214-244-4827
Address: 5 East Kirkwood Blvd. Grapevine Texas 75208


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